Well what I will say is utopian lost its vision, it was meant to be a community driven witness but now it's a utopian supervisors driven witness community. It's a shame they never think of the other side(contributors) while making their do called rules, and Hive account@elear keep been tossed around like a coin by different utopian supervisors. Such a pity. Thanks Hive account@eurogee for speaking on behalf of all contributors.