The Zombies at Port Kaituma
Unlike the consular inspectors and the private investigator, Ryan was able to amass a group that was desperate to leave. Without hesitation he gathered them and took them with him to the Port Kaituma Airstrip.
Richard Dwyer - later identified in Who's Who in the CIA, as a CIA agent – gave his description of the events to the State Department in a document titled “DCM DWYER'S REPORT ON CODEL RYAN'S VISIT TO JONESTOWN AND SUBSEQUENT MURDER”.
I will only cover a few parts of the document, as it is very long, but you can read it in full here.
“THE GROUP CONSISTED OF CONGRESSMAN RYAN; HIS AIDE, MS. JACKIE SPEIERS; AND MYSELF, COUNSELOR OF EMBASSY RICHARD DWYER, THE ESCORT OFFICER TO CONGRESSMAN RYAN; FOUR CONCERNED RELATIVES, MRS. OLIVER, MS. CAROL BOYD, MR. JIM COBB AND MR. ANTHONY KATSARSIS; TWO LAWYERS FOR PEOPLE'S TEMPLE, MR. MARK LANE AND MR. CHARLES GARRY; AND ELEVEN NEWSMEN, INCLUDING A FOUR MAN NBC NEWS TEAM HEADED BY MR. BOB FLICK AND INCLUDING MESSRS. BOB BROWN, DON HARRIS AND STEVE SUNG; MR. LINDSAY OF THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER, MR. CHARLES KRAUSE OF THE WASHINGTON POST, MR. GREY ROBINSON AND MR. TIM REITERMAN OF THE SAN FRANCISCO EXAMINER, AND MR. RON JAVERS OF THE SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE. WE WERE ALSO ACCOMPANIED BY MINISTRY OF INFORMATION OFFICER NEVILLE ANNIBOURNE.”
“I EXPLAINED ON THE RADIO TO CONSUL ELLICE ANSATO THE CONGRESSMAN'S HIRC AIDE, MR. JAMES SCHOLLEART, THE DECISION THAT THERE SHOULD BE NO CONCERNED RELATIVES ON THE PLANE THAT WENT UP TO PORT KAITUMA TO PICK UP THE CONGRESSMAN AND HIS PARTY."
"THE NEWS TEAM HAD BEEN TOLD BY A LOCAL OFFICIAL AT PORT KAITUMA THE PREVIOUS EVENING, I LATER LEARNED, THAT THE OFFICAL ALLEGED THAT HE HAD DELIVERED TO JONES AT JONESTOWN AN AUTOMATIC WEAPON AS WELL AS GOG PERMIT TO HAVE THE WEAPON. IN THE INTERVIEW, HOWEVER, JONES DENIED THIS REPORT, AS HE HAD DENIED POSSESSION OF ANYTHING MORE THAN A FEW SHOTGUNS FOR HUNTING SINCE HE ARRIVED IN GUYANA."
"IN ADDITON TO THE PARK FAMILY, THE BOGUE FAMILY, CONSISTING OF JIM BOGUE, MRS. BOGUE, TINA AND TOMMY, AND A CLOSE FAMILY FRIEND, HAROLD CORDELL, WERE TO LEAVE WITH THE GROUP.
AT THE LAST MOMENT, MR. LARRY LAYTON URGENTLY REQUESTED THAT HE BE PERMITTED TO LEAVE AND HE ENTERED THE TRUCK."
"THE GROUP WAS LOADED IN THE BACK OF THE LARGE TRUCK. I GOT ON LAST. THE TRUCK STARTED TO DEPART BUT SLID IN THE MUD AT THE SIDE OF THE TRACK. THE GROUP WAS TOLD THAT A BULLDOZER WOULD BE NECESSARY TO PUT IT BACK ON THE TRACK."
"(A PREVIOUS DELAY HAD OCCURRED WHICH MS. SPEIERS ATTRIBUTED TO THE FACT THAT THE DRIVER OF THE TRUCK WANTED TO LEAVE WITH THE GROUP AND REFUSED TO DRIVE THE TRUCK OUT UNLESS HE COULD BE GIVEN ASSURANCES THAT HE COULD LEAVE. HE WAS TOLD THAT HECOULD LEAVE WITH THE GROUP THE NEXT DAY.)"
"AS THE GROUP WAITED FOR THE BULLDOZER TO COME TO FREE THE TRUCK, SHOUTS WERE HEARD FROM THE CENTRAL PAVILLION OF JONESTOWN WHERE CONGRESSMAN RYAN WAS WAITING, TOGETHER WITH MR. AND MRS. JONES, MR. GARRY, MR. LANE AND OTHER RANKING INDIVIDUALS OF THE PT. I RAN FROM THE TRUCK TO THE PAVILLION WHERE I FOUND A SMALL GROUP SURROUNDING THE CONGRESSMAN, WHOSE CLOTHES WERE DISHEVELED AND BLOODY."
"THE CONGRESSMAN HAD BEEN ATTACKED BY A KNIFE BEARING DISTRAUGHT MEMBER OF THE PT WHO HAD BEEN DISARMED BY MR. LANE, MR. GARRY AND OTHERS OF THE PT. THE CONGRESSMAN WAS UNINJURED. I WAS TOLD THAT THE BLOOD HAD COME FROM A MINOR WOUND THE ASSAILANT HAD SUFFERED AS THE KNIFE WAS TAKEN FROM HIM."
"THE CONGRESSMAN TOLD JIM JONES THAT THE INCIDENT WOULD PRESENT A PROBLEM FOR THE PT BUT THAT IT WAS NOT ONE WHICH COULD NOT BE OVERCOME IF LEGAL PROCESSES WERE ALLOWED TO TAKE PLACE."
"DURING THE TRIP OUT, INCIDENTALLY, SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE GROUP LEAVING JONESTOWN EXPESSED TO ME AND TO OTHERS THEIR CONCERN THAT ONE LARRY LAYTON HAD BEEN PERMITTED TO JOINT THE GROUP AS THEY CONSIDERED HIM A FANATIC FOLLOWER OF MR. JONES AND DID NOT BELIEVE THAT HE ACTUALLY WISHED TO LEAVE THE ORGANIZATION."
"AS THERE NO AIRCRAFT IN SIGHT UPON THE GROUP'S REACHING PORT KAITUMA AIRFIELD" [...]
"THE GOG INFORMATION OFFICER, MR. ANNIBOURNE, WHO HAD ACCOMPANIED THE GROUP THROUGHOUT AND I ASKED THE DRIVER OF THE PT TRUCK TO TAKE US UP TO THE DISTRICT OFFICE AT PORT KAITUMA TO SEE IF WE COULD GET IN TOUCH WITH GEORGETOWN BY RADIO TO DETERMINE WHAT HAD HAPPENED TO THE PLANES."
"MR. SEMPEL, ACCOMPANIED BY ASSISTANT DISTRICT OFFICER THOMAS, AND MR. SEMPEL'S TWO SMALL CHILDREN, DROVE MR. ANNIBOURNE AND ME TO THE AIRPORT WHERE THE PROCESS OF LOADING THE AIRPLANES HAD ALREADY BEGUN."
“SHORTLY THEREAFTER SHOTS RANG OUT FROM A TRACTOR AND TWO TRAILERS BELONGING TO THE PT WHICH HAD BEEN PARKED AT THE SIDE OF THE RUNWAY NEAREST THE AIRCRAFT. SHOTS ALSO BEGAN FROM THE PT TRUCK PARKED IN FRONT OF THE AIRPLANE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RUNWAY. CONGRESSMAN RYAN RAN UNDER THE NOSE OF THE AIRCRAFT OR CLOSE BY THE NOSE OF THE AIRCRAFT TO GET AWAY FORM THE SHOTS COMING FROM THE TRACTOR AND TWO TRAILERS, AS DID I. I SAW THE CONGRESSMAN HIT ONCE AND GO DOWN, APPARENTLY ATTEMPTING TO SEEK SHELTER BEHIND THE WHEELS OF THE AIRCRAFT.”
"BEING ABLE TO COVER THE DISTANCE FROM THE AIRPLANE TO THE SIDE OF THE RUNWAY AND INTO THE SHELTER OF THE BUSH. I ALSO SAW THAT AT LEAST ONE AND POSSIBLY TWO OTHERS OF THE GROUP HAD ALREADY BEEN HIT. I THEREFORE THREW MYSELF ON THE GROUND ON MY BACK TO SIMULATE DEATH."
"AS I WAS FALLLING I WAS HIT BY A SLUG FROM WHAT APPARENTLY WAS A SMALL CALIBRE WEAPON, POSSIBLE A 22, IN MY LEFT THIGH. THE FIRING CONTINUED FOR SERVERAL MINUTES AND THEN THERE WAS A SHORT PAUSE BEFORE THE FIRING RECOMMENCED."
“IT SEEMED TO ME THAT ONE OR MORE OF THE ASSAILANTS WITH SHOTGUNS WAS PROCEEDING AMONGST THE WOUNDED, FIRING A BLAST AT EACH OF THEM. FOR UNKNOWN REASONS I WAS NOT SHOT BY THOSE WITH THE SHOTGUNS NOR, IT DEVELOPED LATER, WAS MR. CHARLES KRAUSE OF THE "WASHINGTON POST", WHO LATER TOLD ME THAT HE ALSO HAD FEIGNED DEATH ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CONGRESSMAN."
"THE TRUCK AND TRACTOR WERE HEARD TO DRIVE AWAY AND AFTER A FEW MOMENTS THOSE WHO HAD HAD NOT BEEN WOUNDED AND THE AMBULATORY WOUNDED BEGAN TO GET TO THEIR FEET. THE PILOTS OF THE OTTER AIRCRAFT, STILL IN THE COCKPIT, HAD NOT BEEN ATTACKED AND THE ENGINES OF THE PLANE WERE CONTINUING TO RUN.”
"I WENT OVER TO THE CONGRESSMAN, WHO HAD BEEN BADLY HIT. IT WAS CLEAR THAT HE WAS DEAD; I THEN MOVED THE BODY AWAY FROM UNDER THE WHEELS OF THE AIRCRAFT AND CHECKED ON THE OTHERS. THE NBC NEWSMEN, BOB BROWN AND DON HARRIS, WERE BOTH LYING DEAD UNDER AND TO THE REAR OF THE AIRCRAFT. I RAN AROUND TO THE STEPS OF THE AIRCRAFT WHERE MR. GREG ROBINSON OF THE SAN FRANCISCO EXAMINER LAY CRUMPLED, ALSO APPARENTLY KILLED INSTANTLY."
"I CANNOT RECALL WHETHER I FIRST SAW MS. JACKIE SPEIERS STILL ON BOARD THE AIRCRAFT OR AT THE FOOT OF THE STEPS. I APPEARED EVIDENT, HOWEVER, THAT SHE WAS SERIOUSLY WOUNDED AS WAS MR. ANTHONY KATSORSIS, WHO LAY NEAR THE FOOT OF THE AIRCRAFT STEPS."”
"I RAN UP THE STEPS OF THE AIRCRAFT WHERE I FOUND THAT MRS. PATRICIA PARK HAD RECEIVED WHAT APPEARED TO BE THE FULL BLAST OF A SHOTGUN IN THE BACK OF HER HEAD."
Several witnesses have described the shooters as “zombies”, who were “walking mechanically, without emotion, and “looking through you, not at you” as they murdered”. The LA Times wrote that one of the suspects “resembles [a] robot”. The group was probably part of the temple's guard, which was allowed to carry pistols, as early defector Ms. Deborah Blakey claimed.
As to Larry Layton, a fanatical follower of Jones; he infiltrated Ryan's party to kill them:
"HE STATED THAT AS THE CESSNA WAS PREPARING TO DEPART, MR. LAYTON SHOT MISS BAGBY AND MR. GOSNEY ONCE EACH IN THE BACK. THE DOOR OF THE PLANE THEN WAS OPENED AND MISS BAGBY AND MR. GOSNEY RAN OUT OF THE PLANE AND WERE SHOT AGAIN ONCE EACH BY MR. LAYTON, WHO THEN TURNED THE GUN ON MR. PARK. MR. PARK STATED THAT THERE WAS ONE FURTHER DISCHARGE OF THE WEAPON BUT THAT HE WAS NOT INJURED AND WAS ABLE TO TAKE THE WEAPON AWAY FROM MR. LAYTON AFTER A STRUGGLE AND ATTEMPT TO DISCHARGE IT ATMR. LAYTON, WITH OUT RESULT. LAYTON THEN IS SAID TO HAVE DISAPPEARED TEMPORARILY."
"(ONE OF THE GDF SOLDIERS STATIONED BY THE GDF AIRCRAFT UNDER REPAIR NEAR THE CESSNA LATER TOLD ME THAT HE THOUGH MR. LAYTON HAD LEFT THE AREA WITH THE PT LIMITED OFFICIAL USE SECTION 5 OF 6 GEORGETOWN 4041 GROUP.) SUBSEQUENTLY, HOWEVER, MR. LAYTON WAS IDENTIFIED BY SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE PARK FAMILY AND OTHERS MINGLING WITH THE GROUP OF SURVIVORS AT THE SIDE OF THE RUNWAY NEAR THE DISABLED OTTER."
Layton was later arrested.
Again, the rest of the testimony is here. There were other bizarre things, such as long delays of planes, including almost half a day of waiting while victims where near death. Survivors were also appearing out of nowhere, and Dwyer's had several convenient absences. Also notice how he does not mention being injured during the ambush.
This is video footage of minutes before the shooting, and the shooting itself (not graphic).
It is definitely worth adding that Jim Jones is on record saying "Take Dwyer on down to the East House. Get Dwyer out of here before something happens to him".
The White Night
The White Night was a term given to the “suicide drills” that Jim Jones would have his followers perform, with the idea that he could get rid of them quickly in case of an emergency. Although Jones would cover this under a veil of martyrdom for “the cause”:
"I'm talking about planning your death for the victory of the people. For socialism, for communism, for black liberation, for oppressed liberation".
After the murder of Congressman Ryan, Jones went back to Jonestown, to conduct the largest mass suicide of American citizens by having them drink a sugar-flavored beverage laced with Cyanide. Or so does the mainstream story go. But there are many problems with said story.
As per the findings of “two medical officers who visited Jones”:
"1. BODIES ARE EXTREMELY DECOMPOSED AND IMPOSSIBLE TO IDENTIFY BY VISUAL RECOGNITION."
"3. NO EVIDENCE OF STRUGGLES OR VIOLENCE OBSERVED AT SCENE EXCEPT AS INDICATED IN PARA 4.
4. MR. JONES APPARENTLY DIED FROM A SELF-INFLICTED GUNSHOT WOUND."
"5. A NUMBER OF BOTTLES OF POTASSIUM CYANIDE AND CHLORAL HYDRATE AND KOOL AID PACKETS WERE NOTED NEAR A LARGE MIXING CONTAINER. ALTHOUGH CHEMICAL ANALYSIS OF THE CONTAINER CONTENTS OR OF STOMACH CONTENTS WAS NOT PERFORMED, THE FINDINGS OF THE APPARENTLY CONVULSING INDIVIDUALS IS CONSISTENT WITH POISONING BY THESE AGENTS."
"6. MANY USED SYRINGES WERE OBSERVED AT THE SCENE.
7. AN EXTREMELY LARGE SUPPLY OF OTHER DRUGS WERE FOUND AT THE SCENE OF MIXING AND IN 3 OTHER BUILDINGS IN THE PREMISES. THE DRUGS INCLUDED LARGE SUPPLIES OF VALIUM, DEMEROL, THORAZINE, OTHER PSYCHOTROPHIC DRUGS, ETC. ETC. THE SUPPLY OF DRUGS AVAILABLE APPEARED TO BE FAR IN EXCESS OF NORMAL NEEDS OF A POPULATION THE SIZE OF JONESTOWN."
"9. TWO HOSPITAL UNITS CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 12 BEDS EACH WERE NOTED. APPROXIMATELY 6 DEAD INDIVIDUALS WERE OBSERVED IN EACH OF THESE UNITS. MEDICAL EQUIPMENT INCLUDED A PORTABLE X-RAY, EKG MACHINE, DEFIBRILLATOR, AUTOCLAVE, AND MINIMAL EQUIPMENT FOR URINALYSIS, HEMATOLOGY, AND CHEMISTRY. CONCLUSION: INDIVIDUALS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MR. AN MRS. JONES DIED BY CYANIDE AND CHLORAL HYDRATE POISONING BY SUICIDE."
"RECOMMENDATIONS: WE RECOMMEND THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS BE BURIED AT JONESTOWN AND NOT BE REMOVED. NO HEALTH PROBLEM WAS APPARENT AND THEY SHOULD POSE NO POTENTIAL HEALTH PROBLEM TO THE GUYANESE.
Four very important things are found in this report.
(1) Point 5, infers that Cyanide was the killing agent due to the appearance of convulsion from the bodies, bottles of Cyanide, and Kool-Aid packets. However it admits that no actual chemical analysis was done of the containers “or of stomach contents”.
The document "CORONER'S INQUEST INTO JONESTOWN MASS DEATH" also claims Cyanide poisoning was found after “toxicological studies without vivesection”. This was done by 2 different doctors, one who changed her view later.
(2) Point 6 mentions “many used syringes” at the scene. This supports the view that it was a 'mass execution'. Wikileaks documents show that the State Department was not happy that the NYT reported that:
“AS MANY AS 70 OF THE VICTIMS AT JONESTOWN HAD INOCULATION MARKS ON THEIR BODIES.”
“EMMBASSY HAS NOT YET SEEN THE ARTICLE; HOWEVER, NICHOLAS HORROCK OF THE NEW YORK TIMES HAS INFORMED EMBASSY OFFICER THAT STORY WOULD BE CARRIED AND THAT SOURCE OF STORY IS GUYANESE. IMPLICATION APPEARS TO BE THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS REVEALING INOCULATION MARKS MAY BE CLASSED AS MURDER VICTIMS RATHER THAN SUICIDE."
The State Department did not identify the source, and says that the official pathologist claims he didn't give that figure. The pathologist further tries to reason how this would fit into the mass suicide narrative.
Later however the top Guyana Pathologist Dr Leslie Mootoo, said that more than 700 died by force. The Washington Post reported:
“He said that dozens of adult victims whose bodies he examined and died of poison injected into a portion of their upper arms. Mootoo said it is virtually impossible for a person to inject himself in that part of the upper arm.”
“He also noted that 260 of the victims were children. "found a 2-year-old child with poison injected into an arm. Could a child that age take his life voluntarily in that way?" he asked.”
(3) Point 7 mentions several drugs that were found through actual testing - “Valium, Demerol, Thorazine” and “other psychotrophic drugs”. All of these are said to be used in mind control operations such as MKUltra/Delta/Artichoke/Bluebird.
(4) Point 4 mentions that Jim Jones' body was found with a gunshot wound to the head. Another document goes a bit more into detail:
"1. AT 1700 HRS LOCAL, POLICE COMMISSIONER LLOYD BARKER INFORMED EMBASSY PEOPLES' TEMPLE (PT) LEADER JAMES JONES, HIS WIFE, ONE SON, AND ELEVEN MEMBERS OF HIS BODYGUARD WERE IDENTIFIED AS AMONG THE DEAD AT JONESTOWN. BARKER SAID THAT REV. JONES HAD A BULLET IN THE HEAD."
"POLICE SUSPECT THAT AN ARGUMENT MAY HAVE DEVELOPED OVER A LARGE SUM OF MONEY THAT JONES INTENDED TO REMOVE FROM JONESTOWN AND HE MAY HAVE BEEN EXECUTED."
"2. FYI: ACCORDING TO BARKER THE NATIONAL POLICE DISPATCHED A SIX MAN TEAM TO JONESTOWN ON 20 NOVEMBER ALONG WITH SEVERAL PT ESCAPEES FROM JONESTOWN TO AID IN IDENTIFICATION EFFORTS. AMONG THE POLICE TECHNICIANS WERE TWO PHOTOGRAPHERS AND TWO FINGERPRINT TECHNICIANS."
A different document cites a Guyana radio broadcast reporting that:
"RESPONSIBLE SOURCES NOW CLAIM THAT PEOPLES TEMPLE LEADER BISHOP JIM JONES DID NOT COMMIT SUICIDE. HE WAS SHOT IN THE HEAD, REPORTEDLY BY A BODY GUARD. BISHOP JONES IS BELIEVED TO HAVE DECIDED TO PUT AN END TO THE ENTIRE PEOPLES TEMPLE MOVEMENT HERE".
"AFTER RECEIVING INFORMATION THAT HE WOULD HAVE BEEN KILLED. THE TRUSTED PEOPLES TEMPLE LIEUTENANT WHO GAVE THAT INFORMATION TO JIM JONES, TALKED TO CBC. TIM CARTER SAID HE INFILTRATED ANTI-PEOPLES TEMPLE GROUPS IN CALIFORNIA, ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO. SECURED THE INFORMATION THAT BISHOP JIM JONES WAS GOING TO BE KILLED. COMMUNICATED THAT INFORMATION TO BISHOP JONES, ONLY THREE DAYS BEFORE AMERICAN CONGRESSMAN LEO RYAN WAS SHOT DEAD, ALLEGEDLY BY A JIM JONES DEVOTEE. TIM CARTER'S WIFE AND CHILD ARE AMONG THE DEAD."
"TIM CARTER HAS, HOWEVER, MADE ANOTHER DISCLOSURE. A SENSATIONAL DISCLOSURE. CARTER CLAIMS THAT HE WAS GIVEN A TRAVELING BAG, FULL OF MONEY, TO BE HANDED OVER TO THE RUSSIAN EMBASSY IN GEORGETOWN. IN THE BAG ALSO, WAS A LETTER ADDRESSED TO THE RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR. TIM CARTER SAID THE MONEY AND THE LETTER ARE NOW IN THE POSSESSION OF THE SECURITY AUTHORITIES."
"SURVIVORS OF THE PEOPLES TEMPLE CRISIS ARE DIVIDED INTO TWO GROUPS. ONE SET IS CLASSIFIED AS VIOLENT SUPPORTERS OF JIM JONES...THE OTHER AS VIOLENT OPPONENTS OF JIM JONES. THESE RIVAL GROUPS REFUSE TO BE PUT UP IN THE SAME HOTEL, ALTHOUGH THEY ARE UNDER ARMED POLICE GUARD. THEY OPENLY THREATEN TO KILL EACH OTHER."
A later document also claims Jones' money was going to the Soviets:
“THESE LETTERS REVEAL THAT PEOPLE'S TEMPLE HAD MORE THAN $7,000.000 IN ACCOUNTS WITH BRANCHES OF TWO SWISS BANKING FIRMS IN PANAMA, AND THAT THE LEADERS OF THE PEOPLE' TEMPLE, ON THE FINAL DAY, HAD DIRECTED THAT THESE FUNDS BE PAID TO FEODOR TIMOFEYEV, PRESS AND CONSULAR ATTACHE OF THE SOVIET EMBASSY IN GEORGETOWN FOR ULTIMATE TRANSMISSION TO THE COMMUNIST PARTY OF THE USSR."
"THE LETTERS DIRECT THAT THE FUNDS DEPOSITED IN THESE ACCOUNTS, AS THE DEPOSITS MATURE, BE PAID TO TIMOFEYEV"
The report brags that the Soviet's “discomfort is certain to grow”, after this supposed revelation.
However Jonestown's location (see part 1), suggests an advantage to US interests, over Soviet interests. The Prime Minister at the time, Forbes Burnham, was also very much in line with the CIA agenda, also being connected for his support the Shalom Project.
There's also no evidence of communication between Jonestown and the Soviets.
Further Reading:
Disposal of Remains at the Jonestown Site
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/1978STATE294528_d.html
Media Activities in Wake of Port-Kaituma-Jonestown Tragedies
(The State Department was monitoring the activities of journalists. Apparently there was a lot of skepticism regarding the official story, with one journalist shouting “cover up!” during a press briefing)
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/1978GEORGE03928_d.html
Press Briefing Dealing with Guyana, Wednesday, November 29, 1978.
(This is in regards to survivors being brought back to the US. It is mentioned that there is a British linked group within the CIA, that has a history of propping up “synthetic” cults in the US.)
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/1978STATE302484_d.html
“The Black Hole of Guyana: The Untold Story of the Jonestown Massacre”
(Great resource that covers the whole thing. It's extremely well cited. The sources prove a 180-degree turn as to how the MSM covered the event then, and how it does now.)
https://jonestown.sdsu.edu/?page_id=78282
