Hey Carl,

Thanks again for listening, and I'm glad you enjoyed it. This one was incredibly fun to put together, mainly because of the folks I interviewed. I have learned so much about these things by talking to other people.

I'm also very excited to release next week's episode, because my guests were fantastic yet again.

You're right about the ads, though. I've been using the Brave browser on desktop and I switched to Firefox on mobile because you can add an ad blocker, so I don't see them quite as much, but when I do, it reminds me of the wild, wild, west that still exists out there.

Thank you again for stopping by.