Serdar-ı Ekrem Çırpanlı Abdülkerim Nadir Pasha spoke very little, and all religions eventually uttered his opinion when asked for his own thought. In the first years of Sultan Aziz Devrin, the sultan had gathered a commission from well-known commanders who wanted to make fortifications against the Russians in the eastern borders. It was spoken as much as it is customary. Abdulkerim Nadir Pasha did not speak, he just listened. A decision was made, maps were prepared and the locations of the fortifications were determined. At the beginning of the gathering of votes for the sultan's mazbatas, Abdülkerim Nadir Pasha, who asked for his opinion, wanted to talk. The prepared progeny made such criticism that, yes, many of the listeners immediately changed their minds. One of them could not resist: "Pasha's chiefs ... I have been discussing these principles for days, and why are you telling me your thoughts when decisions are taken?" Serdar-ı Ekrem gul: "Here, it is understood from these changing ideas that the essentials are not discussed here. It was interviewed but not decided, two. Believers, however, respond when their ideas are asked, three. He said, "There is a cure for those who need to talk in such commissions is silent to quit, four." And as long as they are asked about ideas on new projects.