Ive researched both sides of the argument. The spinning ball requires you to believe in magic with no proof whatsoever. Gravity is magic, there is no experiments that show that matter is attracted to each other by virtue of mass alone, so the theory of gravity is magic. Yes we know there is a downward force, but we just dont know what it is, could be an electromagnetic force. No one has independently detected curvature, I have seen islands myself that should not have been seen because of curvature. If there is no curvature there is no ball. Not only is there less curvature than can be detected, there is absolutely zero curvature detected. Thousands of people have seen chicago across lake michigan from 50+ miles away, thats over 2000 ft of supposed drop due to supposed curvature. This is just one of thousands of flat earth experiments that prove we are not on a spinning ball. Even mainstream science proves there is no ball, check out Airy' failaure, the sagnac experiment, the bedford level experiment and gyro experiments. All this proofs we are not on a spinning ball. The only evidence of spinning balls comes from Nasa which independent people will never be able to verify. Wake up people, snap out of the brainwashing, these people who run the world dont care about you, not at all, absolutely zero. They lie to us to gain power over us, so we give them all our money, work all our lives, and keep us metaphysically and mentally imprisoned. And yes I dont have a modal with all the answers, but i know im not on a spinning ball, I am working to find the truth. I dont depend on government or fake space agencies to spoon feed me truth. Sorry but you clearly haven't done any flat earth research, except for believing in the words of men. I need better proof than that. Sorry, I know it hurts to realize that everything you have been taught about the reality we live in is a lie. It hurts