"When both the victims and the perpetrators of a past injustice are no longer with us, then we have to let bygones be bygones."

Sure, but millions of people die today because of lack of access created by ownership... There are still victims!

Grandpa didn't steal private property from grandma (your example would be personal property, one I might agree with).

What I'm talking about is 'grandpa' who stole private property from ALL of us, those who were alive that day and those who ever will be alive during his reign of Illegitimate ownership. (meaning there are still victims from this crime)

"But just for the sake of the argument: If private property is inherently violent because, if attacked, you might need to use force to defend it"

(What? That's not what I said.)

Private property is inherently violent as it creates inequality, which grows to extreme inequality with time (what we see today). It's violent to force others off land that they lived on for their whole lives. It's violent to limit my access to clean water, it's violent to destroy a mountain for profit, it's violent to pollute a river so I can no longer drink from it, it's violent to poison the earth, it's violent to destroy a whole forest and KILL every living being in it. All of these are only capable with a false notion of "private property" (the 'i own it so I can do what I want' mentality) the distinction between the two is massive. Personal property is relating to the world to meet our needs (not our greeds).

Regardless, I feel like we are both just making the same points :) Also, (based on your responses) I feel like I am doing an awful attempt at relating to you my thoughts... I would love to really connect with you on grounds where we agree, and areas where we can creatively build on ideas, not philosophically argue about them!

Agree to disagree then :)