Good day Good folks.
This post is (in part) a reply to a comment by @ freecompliments in a thread about Downvoting & Blacklisting by Hivewatchers within the Free Compliments community (in particular). i decided to turn what started as a comment reply into a post as my reply became lengthy and i think there is value to more people seeing it.
If a user has been "scamming" the reward pool for a while (using AI without attribution, copy/pasting/paigarism etc.) then gets caught, i think perhaps there IS good reason to continue downvoting for a while, ie. to recover all those previous rewards which were illicitly farmed.
i saw a screenshot you made with @ hivewatchers telling someone what they needed to do to get off the blacklist. It was something like:
Get down on your knees and beg forgiveness and post a decent post every day for 30 days burning all the rewards. i paraphrased that somewhat :-)
My first thought was; **ok that, if it were me i would just quit Hive. But then i thought about it for a while. Yes, why not ask the offender to make good & return those rewards illicitly received to the reward pool by burning. And/or downvotes on future posts as mentioned above.
Of course it's good to give sone leeway for first offenders, but if they are ignoring the guidelines they get initially from @ brittandjosie, and others who welcome newbies with many guides, and ignoring comments made by hivewatchers & hivers who catch them out and give warning, then i think it's good they make retribution or are downvoted until they quit.
i'll leave it at that for now. There are some finer points and intricacies i've not mentioned & i think you've not seen. i do see however Irfans most recent post was more real, about his garden, so he has started following guidance generously offered by some community members. However i also sensed he was still not accepting responsibility but still blaming hivewatchers with the way he said something like "i hope this is now acceptable". If you dive back into the threads you may see some of these finer points.
Very briefly, and i'll talk more about this later, our methods if communication result in the way we are treated.
Be aware, take a few deep breaths: Potential triggers inbound, with giid intention behind them:
i have observed (what i consider to be) several assumptions/judgements/blame and use of ad hominems in the way you have spoken about hivewatchers, what would be called Violent Communication in the language of Non Violent Communication (NVC https://www.cnvc.org/) by Marshall Rosenberg.
Not to say that similar didn't come first from Hivewatchers, idk. But an eye for and eye makes the while world blind.
Let's always remember The Golden Rule.
i do not claim to be perfect by the way, i am most certainly not always communicating consciously, in fact just this week i found myself shouting at someone. Man oh Man! i did apologise very soon afterwards, and posted a thread about it. And i told a couple of my family members about what happened, my confession i guess, and reaching out for support.
Anyway, back to the issues with HiveWatchers, and yes, there are some issues which could perhaps be resolved, but i think their systems need considerably improving. And whether the $350 per day for the DHF proposal is justifiable, i doubt it, but unless they are transparent i guess it's a judgement call.
Someone doesn't think so:
A couple of hours ago i started a threadcast to discuss ideas and thoughts about starting a Community Driven equivalent to HiveWatchers, which for now i've named Hive Clean Team.
Here's the link to the threadcast: /@atma.love/re-leothreads-xfxhsjr7
Image Souce (adapted from) https://candia.sau15.net/2016/04/07/team-up-to-clean-up/
The threadcast is text only (threads, not a live video), but it is live now and i'll be there to answer questions and discuss ideas for the next 6-7 hours or more (it's now 1530 hrs 1st January 2024) and i'll be watching out for any replies for next couple of days. Please Join & have your say.
If you would like to help get this off the ground (and possibly even get a part time or even full time #job out of it), then join in and help it happen.
And share with your friends, in your threads / Dbuzz and/or waves feed.
/@atma.love/re-leothreads-xfxhsjr7
Thanks for reading,
Peace & Love
Atma