1607
01:40:21,380 --> 01:40:23,380
thing. And
1608
01:40:23,380 --> 01:40:25,380
you want to see it on Leo, just
1609
01:40:25,380 --> 01:40:27,380
look at
1610
01:40:29,380 --> 01:40:31,380
the
1611
01:40:31,380 --> 01:40:33,380
threadcasts. Those people
1612
01:40:33,380 --> 01:40:35,380
are putting up threadcasts each day. Those
1613
01:40:35,380 --> 01:40:37,380
are the ones dedicated.
1614
01:40:37,380 --> 01:40:39,380
So
1615
01:40:39,380 --> 01:40:41,380
when you start to
1616
01:40:41,380 --> 01:40:43,380
look at this
1617
01:40:43,380 --> 01:40:45,380
and you start to say, okay,
1618
01:40:45,380 --> 01:40:47,380
I want to be an owner.
1619
01:40:49,380 --> 01:40:51,380
Then you're an owner.
1620
01:40:53,380 --> 01:40:55,380
So
1621
01:40:55,380 --> 01:40:57,380
Brenda, what you're recommending is you're
1622
01:40:57,380 --> 01:40:59,380
recommending, okay, the only way
1623
01:40:59,380 --> 01:41:01,380
to make Web3 possible
1624
01:41:01,380 --> 01:41:03,380
is to spend our time on Web2.
1625
01:41:03,380 --> 01:41:05,380
That's what you're saying.
1626
01:41:05,380 --> 01:41:07,380
You're saying, leave Web3 and
1627
01:41:07,380 --> 01:41:09,380
go on Web2.
1628
01:41:09,380 --> 01:41:11,380
Sorry, I'm going to call bullshit on that.
1629
01:41:11,380 --> 01:41:13,380
You can sit there and say that's where all the people
1630
01:41:13,380 --> 01:41:15,380
are. And that's where you can
1631
01:41:15,380 --> 01:41:17,380
incentivize. Well, if they're all hanging out on
1632
01:41:17,380 --> 01:41:19,380
Telegram, what are you going to incentivize them to leave?
1633
01:41:19,380 --> 01:41:21,380
They're going to leave Telegram. You just said
1634
01:41:21,380 --> 01:41:23,380
it's a place with millions
1635
01:41:23,380 --> 01:41:25,380
of people. So it's a hotbed.
1636
01:41:25,380 --> 01:41:27,380
It's an epicenter. So it's Web2.
1637
01:41:27,380 --> 01:41:29,380
And it goes back to what Ahmad
1638
01:41:29,380 --> 01:41:31,380
said earlier. People who are
1639
01:41:31,380 --> 01:41:33,380
on Twitter aren't leaving Twitter.
1640
01:41:33,380 --> 01:41:35,380
They're happy there.
1641
01:41:35,380 --> 01:41:37,380
I mean, for whatever reason, there's still
1642
01:41:37,380 --> 01:41:39,380
how many people show up to Facebook
1643
01:41:39,380 --> 01:41:41,380
each day? Now, I don't think
1644
01:41:41,380 --> 01:41:43,380
anybody under 40 uses Facebook,
1645
01:41:43,380 --> 01:41:45,380
do they?
1646
01:41:45,380 --> 01:41:47,380
I don't use Facebook, so I don't know.
1647
01:41:47,380 --> 01:41:49,380
But there's
1648
01:41:49,380 --> 01:41:51,380
hundreds of millions of people on Facebook
1649
01:41:51,380 --> 01:41:53,380
every day.
1650
01:41:53,380 --> 01:41:55,380
Instagram, I think, gets a younger crowd.
1651
01:41:55,380 --> 01:41:57,380
But again, it's this idea that, oh, well,
1652
01:41:57,380 --> 01:41:59,380
we've got to leave Web3 to go use Web2.
1653
01:41:59,380 --> 01:42:01,380
Well, who the hell is using Web3?
1654
01:42:01,380 --> 01:42:03,380
And
1655
01:42:03,380 --> 01:42:05,380
this is... Brando is
1656
01:42:05,380 --> 01:42:07,380
offering the same thing about Telegram
1657
01:42:07,380 --> 01:42:09,380
that we've heard said for X with the
1658
01:42:09,380 --> 01:42:11,380
Hive Army on X.
1659
01:42:11,380 --> 01:42:13,380
These people put up 10,000
1660
01:42:13,380 --> 01:42:15,380
tweets
1661
01:42:15,380 --> 01:42:17,380
a day
1662
01:42:17,380 --> 01:42:19,380
or more
1663
01:42:19,380 --> 01:42:21,380
and comments and engagement on X.
1664
01:42:21,380 --> 01:42:23,380
And they're
1665
01:42:23,380 --> 01:42:25,380
not doing anything on Hive. They talk about Hive.
1666
01:42:25,380 --> 01:42:27,380
Talk about how wonderful Hive
1667
01:42:27,380 --> 01:42:29,380
is. Oh, it's
1668
01:42:29,380 --> 01:42:31,380
immutable data. How the hell
1669
01:42:31,380 --> 01:42:33,380
do you know? You're putting it all on X.
1670
01:42:33,380 --> 01:42:35,380
It's the same thing.
1671
01:42:35,380 --> 01:42:37,380
And why don't Web3 apps take
1672
01:42:37,380 --> 01:42:39,380
off?
1673
01:42:41,380 --> 01:42:43,380
Ask SimpleGame
1674
01:42:43,380 --> 01:42:45,380
about the incentivization
1675
01:42:45,380 --> 01:42:47,380
of gaming.
1676
01:42:49,380 --> 01:42:51,380
He'll tell you exactly
1677
01:42:51,380 --> 01:42:53,380
about the incentivization of Web3 gaming.
1678
01:42:53,380 --> 01:42:55,380
It's the same thing.
1679
01:42:55,380 --> 01:42:57,380
It's always
1680
01:42:57,380 --> 01:42:59,380
the same thing.
1681
01:42:59,380 --> 01:43:01,380
We have to go and appeal to these people
1682
01:43:01,380 --> 01:43:03,380
on Web2.
1683
01:43:03,380 --> 01:43:05,380
Why don't you
1684
01:43:05,380 --> 01:43:07,380
build something on Web3 that people
1685
01:43:07,380 --> 01:43:09,380
want?
1686
01:43:09,380 --> 01:43:11,380
Because
1687
01:43:11,380 --> 01:43:13,380
what the hell are you going to market?
1688
01:43:13,380 --> 01:43:15,380
What's your USP?
1689
01:43:15,380 --> 01:43:17,380
That's an old marketing term called
1690
01:43:17,380 --> 01:43:19,380
unique service proposition. What makes it different?
1691
01:43:19,380 --> 01:43:21,380
How are you
1692
01:43:21,380 --> 01:43:23,380
going to position yourself? What makes you different
1693
01:43:23,380 --> 01:43:25,380
from what's out there?
1694
01:43:25,380 --> 01:43:27,380
And I challenge
1695
01:43:27,380 --> 01:43:29,380
anybody to write that up for Leo.
1696
01:43:29,380 --> 01:43:31,380
I bet you can't come up with that. Or ask
1697
01:43:31,380 --> 01:43:33,380
the Leo team
1698
01:43:33,380 --> 01:43:35,380
then. I bet they can't come up with it.
1699
01:43:35,380 --> 01:43:37,380
That's the
1700
01:43:37,380 --> 01:43:39,380
first thing in Marketing 101.
1701
01:43:39,380 --> 01:43:41,380
What makes you unique?
1702
01:43:41,380 --> 01:43:43,380
Oh, well, we do
1703
01:43:43,380 --> 01:43:45,380
the same thing as they do.
1704
01:43:45,380 --> 01:43:47,380
Then
1705
01:43:47,380 --> 01:43:49,380
they're not
1706
01:43:49,380 --> 01:43:51,380
going to switch.
1707
01:43:51,380 --> 01:43:53,380
So,
1708
01:43:53,380 --> 01:43:55,380
there's a reason why
1709
01:43:55,380 --> 01:43:57,380
Kia and Mercedes,
1710
01:43:57,380 --> 01:43:59,380
even though they both
1711
01:43:59,380 --> 01:44:01,380
make automobiles, even though they have four wheels
1712
01:44:01,380 --> 01:44:03,380
and a steering wheel, four tires
1713
01:44:03,380 --> 01:44:05,380
and a steering wheel, they're completely
1714
01:44:05,380 --> 01:44:07,380
different worlds.
1715
01:44:07,380 --> 01:44:09,380
And everything in either
1716
01:44:09,380 --> 01:44:11,380
of those companies is designed
1717
01:44:11,380 --> 01:44:13,380
with where they are positioned.
1718
01:44:13,380 --> 01:44:15,380
And Mercedes
1719
01:44:15,380 --> 01:44:17,380
does not operate like
1720
01:44:17,380 --> 01:44:19,380
Kia or Hyundai.
1721
01:44:19,380 --> 01:44:21,380
And Kia and Hyundai don't operate like
1722
01:44:21,380 --> 01:44:23,380
Mercedes.
1723
01:44:23,380 --> 01:44:25,380
But again,
1724
01:44:25,380 --> 01:44:27,380
I mean, it's just another
1725
01:44:27,380 --> 01:44:29,380
example. Oh, well, how to make Web3
1726
01:44:29,380 --> 01:44:31,380
popular by all
1727
01:44:31,380 --> 01:44:33,380
running over to Web2. And
1728
01:44:33,380 --> 01:44:35,380
catering to Web2.
1729
01:44:37,380 --> 01:44:39,380
Did Facebook
1730
01:44:39,380 --> 01:44:41,380
do that? Because Facebook,
1731
01:44:41,380 --> 01:44:43,380
in my opinion, really ushered in
1732
01:44:43,380 --> 01:44:45,380
Web3.
1733
01:44:45,380 --> 01:44:47,380
Did Facebook become successful by
1734
01:44:47,380 --> 01:44:49,380
running over and going on
1735
01:44:49,380 --> 01:44:51,380
MySpace, which was
1736
01:44:51,380 --> 01:44:53,380
the precursor?
1737
01:44:53,380 --> 01:44:55,380
And scraping
1738
01:44:55,380 --> 01:44:57,380
all the people off MySpace?
1739
01:44:57,380 --> 01:44:59,380
No.
1740
01:44:59,380 --> 01:45:01,380
So, MySpace was a Web1
1741
01:45:01,380 --> 01:45:03,380
version of Twitter
1742
01:45:03,380 --> 01:45:05,380
and Facebook, yet
1743
01:45:05,380 --> 01:45:07,380
Facebook became very popular,
1744
01:45:07,380 --> 01:45:09,380
Twitter became very popular, and they didn't go and
1745
01:45:09,380 --> 01:45:11,380
target MySpace.
1746
01:45:15,380 --> 01:45:17,380
Zuckerberg brought out a product and he just
1747
01:45:17,380 --> 01:45:19,380
targeted
1748
01:45:19,380 --> 01:45:21,380
college students. That's how
1749
01:45:21,380 --> 01:45:23,380
it initially started. I don't know what Twitter
1750
01:45:23,380 --> 01:45:25,380
did initially.
1751
01:45:25,380 --> 01:45:27,380
Did
1752
01:45:27,380 --> 01:45:29,380
YouTube go
1753
01:45:29,380 --> 01:45:31,380
and target the movie studios
1754
01:45:31,380 --> 01:45:33,380
and television studios and say,
1755
01:45:33,380 --> 01:45:35,380
hey, you got to put your stuff on here?
1756
01:45:35,380 --> 01:45:37,380
No.
1757
01:45:37,380 --> 01:45:39,380
What was YouTube?
1758
01:45:39,380 --> 01:45:41,380
Cat videos.
1759
01:45:41,380 --> 01:45:43,380
That's what
1760
01:45:43,380 --> 01:45:45,380
made YouTube successful.
1761
01:45:45,380 --> 01:45:47,380
Cat videos.
1762
01:45:47,380 --> 01:45:49,380
And then pirated content.
1763
01:45:49,380 --> 01:45:51,380
But,
1764
01:45:51,380 --> 01:45:53,380
but see, so,
1765
01:45:53,380 --> 01:45:55,380
suddenly now, the only way for Web3
1766
01:45:55,380 --> 01:45:57,380
to be successful, even though we've been doing it
1767
01:45:57,380 --> 01:45:59,380
on high for seven years, is everybody to run
1768
01:45:59,380 --> 01:46:01,380
to Web2 and try to tell these
1769
01:46:01,380 --> 01:46:03,380
people to come over here.
1770
01:46:03,380 --> 01:46:05,380
What is over here?
1771
01:46:05,380 --> 01:46:07,380
What are you promoting?
1772
01:46:07,380 --> 01:46:09,380
I've asked that question for seven years.
1773
01:46:11,380 --> 01:46:13,380
What are you going to promote? What's your service?
1774
01:46:13,380 --> 01:46:15,380
I mean, Brando said, if you go on Telegram,
1775
01:46:15,380 --> 01:46:17,380
there's a lot of stuff that's offering tokens
1776
01:46:17,380 --> 01:46:19,380
and incentivizing tokens.
1777
01:46:19,380 --> 01:46:21,380
So now we're all on
1778
01:46:21,380 --> 01:46:23,380
Leo, going to run over there just to be one
1779
01:46:23,380 --> 01:46:25,380
of millions to say,
1780
01:46:25,380 --> 01:46:27,380
here.
1781
01:46:27,380 --> 01:46:29,380
Oh, please take our token, too.
1782
01:46:29,380 --> 01:46:31,380
Build the features.
1783
01:46:31,380 --> 01:46:33,380
And in my opinion,
1784
01:46:33,380 --> 01:46:35,380
build the AI features.
1785
01:46:35,380 --> 01:46:37,380
Build the features.
1786
01:46:37,380 --> 01:46:39,380
Build the features.
1787
01:46:39,380 --> 01:46:41,380
Build the features.
1788
01:46:41,380 --> 01:46:43,380
Build the features.
1789
01:46:43,380 --> 01:46:45,380
And Khal is right.
1790
01:46:45,380 --> 01:46:47,380
He is the only one that I know
1791
01:46:47,380 --> 01:46:49,380
of that
1792
01:46:49,380 --> 01:46:51,380
is looking to actively
1793
01:46:51,380 --> 01:46:53,380
use the Hive database.
1794
01:46:55,380 --> 01:46:57,380
Well, yeah, that's true.
1795
01:46:57,380 --> 01:46:59,380
It did start as a dating site.
1796
01:46:59,380 --> 01:47:01,380
I was talking more when Google
1797
01:47:01,380 --> 01:47:03,380
got a hold of it.
1798
01:47:03,380 --> 01:47:05,380
But yeah, initially, that is
1799
01:47:05,380 --> 01:47:07,380
one of the nuances. It was
1800
01:47:07,380 --> 01:47:09,380
initially a dating site.
1801
01:47:11,380 --> 01:47:13,380
But Khal's the only one.
1802
01:47:13,380 --> 01:47:15,380
Leo is the only one that
1803
01:47:15,380 --> 01:47:17,380
I know of, and based on what you said
1804
01:47:17,380 --> 01:47:19,380
yesterday on the marketing call,
1805
01:47:19,380 --> 01:47:21,380
anybody he talked to at Hivefest,
1806
01:47:21,380 --> 01:47:23,380
nobody else is doing it.
1807
01:47:23,380 --> 01:47:25,380
Nobody else even
1808
01:47:25,380 --> 01:47:27,380
mentioned AI.
1809
01:47:27,380 --> 01:47:29,380
We're closing out the end of 2024,
1810
01:47:29,380 --> 01:47:31,380
and I think
1811
01:47:31,380 --> 01:47:33,380
most everybody in this Threadcast
1812
01:47:33,380 --> 01:47:35,380
is, because I've seen you, you've used
1813
01:47:37,380 --> 01:47:39,380
a bot, you used
1814
01:47:39,380 --> 01:47:41,380
an image generator, you used
1815
01:47:41,380 --> 01:47:43,380
something.
1816
01:47:43,380 --> 01:47:45,380
And nobody on Hive has talked about AI.
1817
01:47:45,380 --> 01:47:47,380
Where do you think that's
1818
01:47:47,380 --> 01:47:49,380
going to put these applications in a year
1819
01:47:49,380 --> 01:47:51,380
or two? Do you think
1820
01:47:51,380 --> 01:47:53,380
anybody's going to use that stuff without
1821
01:47:53,380 --> 01:47:55,380
any AI? And I know some
1822
01:47:55,380 --> 01:47:57,380
PTs had a few AI stuff,
1823
01:47:57,380 --> 01:47:59,380
but really, unless
1824
01:47:59,380 --> 01:48:01,380
you're dealing with a full-blown chatbot,
1825
01:48:01,380 --> 01:48:03,380
unless you're dealing with full-blown image
1826
01:48:03,380 --> 01:48:05,380
generators, unless you're dealing with AI
1827
01:48:05,380 --> 01:48:07,380
tools right on your platform, is
1828
01:48:07,380 --> 01:48:09,380
anybody seriously going to use you, you think,
1829
01:48:09,380 --> 01:48:11,380
in a year or two?
1830
01:48:13,380 --> 01:48:15,380
Now,
1831
01:48:15,380 --> 01:48:17,380
we have no control over what's designed,
1832
01:48:17,380 --> 01:48:19,380
but we do have control over what
1833
01:48:19,380 --> 01:48:21,380
goes in.
1834
01:48:25,380 --> 01:48:27,380
So,
1835
01:48:29,380 --> 01:48:31,380
well, another
1836
01:48:31,380 --> 01:48:33,380
change, here's Brando again, another change that makes it
1837
01:48:33,380 --> 01:48:35,380
super easy for newbies, Web 2 people,
1838
01:48:35,380 --> 01:48:37,380
is onboard Web 3 is Solana.
1839
01:48:37,380 --> 01:48:39,380
So you're going to Web 2 to try to get to Web 3.
1840
01:48:39,380 --> 01:48:41,380
Their wallets and apps are spot-on, easy
1841
01:48:41,380 --> 01:48:43,380
to use, and change super fast, and fees are cheap.
1842
01:48:43,380 --> 01:48:45,380
Well, fees mean
1843
01:48:45,380 --> 01:48:47,380
no social media.
1844
01:48:49,380 --> 01:48:51,380
Because people aren't going to pay a fee to give an
1845
01:48:51,380 --> 01:48:53,380
upvote. People aren't going to pay a fee
1846
01:48:53,380 --> 01:48:55,380
to leave a comment.
1847
01:48:55,380 --> 01:48:57,380
People aren't going to pay a fee to LOL.
1848
01:48:57,380 --> 01:48:59,380
And people aren't
1849
01:48:59,380 --> 01:49:01,380
going to wait for the wallet to process
1850
01:49:01,380 --> 01:49:03,380
that fee to do it.
1851
01:49:03,380 --> 01:49:05,380
Now you're stuck in the financial end
1852
01:49:05,380 --> 01:49:07,380
things. That's why we haven't seen social
1853
01:49:07,380 --> 01:49:09,380
media apps take off.
1854
01:49:09,380 --> 01:49:11,380
And as I said,
1855
01:49:11,380 --> 01:49:13,380
social media apps in and of themselves
1856
01:49:13,380 --> 01:49:15,380
are going to be problematic
1857
01:49:15,380 --> 01:49:17,380
because as
1858
01:49:17,380 --> 01:49:19,380
the owners, again, there's
1859
01:49:19,380 --> 01:49:21,380
that word, owner, not users,
1860
01:49:21,380 --> 01:49:23,380
owners feed
1861
01:49:23,380 --> 01:49:25,380
in to the data.
1862
01:49:25,380 --> 01:49:27,380
That's the
1863
01:49:27,380 --> 01:49:29,380
key. Look at that data feedback.
1864
01:49:29,380 --> 01:49:31,380
Show me a
1865
01:49:31,380 --> 01:49:33,380
social media platform that
1866
01:49:33,380 --> 01:49:35,380
is not doing that. Go pull up
1867
01:49:35,380 --> 01:49:37,380
the image that I generated.
1868
01:49:39,380 --> 01:49:41,380
Look at every social media platform
1869
01:49:41,380 --> 01:49:43,380
out there. They're all doing that same thing.
1870
01:49:43,380 --> 01:49:45,380
And why?
1871
01:49:45,380 --> 01:49:47,380
What does Google have?
1872
01:49:47,380 --> 01:49:49,380
What does Meta have?
1873
01:49:49,380 --> 01:49:51,380
What does XAI have?
1874
01:49:51,380 --> 01:49:53,380
They all have large language
1875
01:49:53,380 --> 01:49:55,380
models.
1876
01:49:55,380 --> 01:49:57,380
And they're feeding it in.
1877
01:49:57,380 --> 01:49:59,380
And they want to feed
1878
01:49:59,380 --> 01:50:01,380
more and more data.
1879
01:50:01,380 --> 01:50:03,380
And you notice those three aren't getting their asses
1880
01:50:03,380 --> 01:50:05,380
sued for data infringement.
1881
01:50:05,380 --> 01:50:07,380
I mean,
1882
01:50:07,380 --> 01:50:09,380
Musk is getting picked on for
1883
01:50:09,380 --> 01:50:11,380
and I guess
1884
01:50:11,380 --> 01:50:13,380
Google is getting their crosshairs
1885
01:50:13,380 --> 01:50:15,380
over
1886
01:50:15,380 --> 01:50:17,380
the privacy issue by the regulators
1887
01:50:17,380 --> 01:50:19,380
in the EU. But they're not being
1888
01:50:19,380 --> 01:50:21,380
sued by these other publishers.
1889
01:50:21,380 --> 01:50:23,380
Why? Because they have their own
1890
01:50:23,380 --> 01:50:25,380
data.
1891
01:50:25,380 --> 01:50:27,380
And it's kind of hard to
1892
01:50:27,380 --> 01:50:29,380
say to Zuckerberg,
1893
01:50:29,380 --> 01:50:31,380
you trained your large language model
1894
01:50:31,380 --> 01:50:33,380
on my data
1895
01:50:33,380 --> 01:50:35,380
when he has Facebook.
1896
01:50:35,380 --> 01:50:37,380
And he has who knows how
1897
01:50:37,380 --> 01:50:39,380
many trillions of
1898
01:50:39,380 --> 01:50:41,380
tokens and data. It's like, what are you
1899
01:50:41,380 --> 01:50:43,380
kidding me? You posted your
1900
01:50:43,380 --> 01:50:45,380
own stuff on my Facebook page.
1901
01:50:45,380 --> 01:50:47,380
My Facebook servers.
1902
01:50:47,380 --> 01:50:49,380
So,
1903
01:50:49,380 --> 01:50:51,380
that's the advantage we have.
1904
01:50:53,380 --> 01:50:55,380
Ahmad's not worried about
1905
01:50:55,380 --> 01:50:57,380
other Hive interfaces. They have their
1906
01:50:57,380 --> 01:50:59,380
own roadmaps. They want to compete. They have enough
1907
01:50:59,380 --> 01:51:01,380
resources to find their way. I don't know what
1908
01:51:01,380 --> 01:51:03,380
resources they have, honestly.
1909
01:51:03,380 --> 01:51:05,380
But
1910
01:51:05,380 --> 01:51:07,380
yeah, I'm not really worried about
1911
01:51:07,380 --> 01:51:09,380
them either, Ahmad. I'm just
1912
01:51:09,380 --> 01:51:11,380
I'm all in on Leo.
1913
01:51:11,380 --> 01:51:13,380
Um
1914
01:51:13,380 --> 01:51:15,380
so
1915
01:51:15,380 --> 01:51:17,380
Leo has an AI
1916
01:51:17,380 --> 01:51:19,380
platform. That's all
1917
01:51:19,380 --> 01:51:21,380
you need to know.
1918
01:51:21,380 --> 01:51:23,380
Because that positions it exactly
1919
01:51:23,380 --> 01:51:25,380
where things are going. And if
1920
01:51:25,380 --> 01:51:27,380
everything ties into that and everybody
1921
01:51:27,380 --> 01:51:29,380
focuses upon that and what's
1922
01:51:29,380 --> 01:51:31,380
needed, what features are needed
1923
01:51:31,380 --> 01:51:33,380
to create more data or what features
1924
01:51:33,380 --> 01:51:35,380
are needed to generate
1925
01:51:35,380 --> 01:51:37,380
AI features that can create more data,
1926
01:51:37,380 --> 01:51:39,380
then you got the feedback loop
1927
01:51:39,380 --> 01:51:41,380
and we already have the monetization
1928
01:51:41,380 --> 01:51:43,380
factor in play.
1929
01:51:43,380 --> 01:51:45,380
It's already been designed. The tokenomics
1930
01:51:45,380 --> 01:51:47,380
are there. The Leo premium's there. The ad revenue
1931
01:51:47,380 --> 01:51:49,380
has at least
1932
01:51:49,380 --> 01:51:51,380
been designed. They're working on the platform.
1933
01:51:51,380 --> 01:51:53,380
And oh, by the way, all of
1934
01:51:53,380 --> 01:51:55,380
this starts to feed in more because you can
1935
01:51:55,380 --> 01:51:57,380
as more people use Leo
1936
01:51:57,380 --> 01:51:59,380
chat or whatever the heck it would be called,
1937
01:51:59,380 --> 01:52:01,380
guess what? That's clicks.
1938
01:52:01,380 --> 01:52:03,380
That's time on site. That's page views.
1939
01:52:03,380 --> 01:52:05,380
That's ads.
1940
01:52:05,380 --> 01:52:07,380
It all feeds into the same thing.
1941
01:52:13,380 --> 01:52:15,380
MoreTea
1942
01:52:15,380 --> 01:52:17,380
with an interesting question.
1943
01:52:17,380 --> 01:52:19,380
Do we have to subscribe to Task
1944
01:52:19,380 --> 01:52:21,380
next week when the only
1945
01:52:21,380 --> 01:52:23,380
Leo feature goes live
1946
01:52:23,380 --> 01:52:25,380
to keep on seeing and listening? What are your
1947
01:52:25,380 --> 01:52:27,380
plans? Well, no. The lion's den
1948
01:52:27,380 --> 01:52:29,380
is, this is an extension of
1949
01:52:29,380 --> 01:52:31,380
town hall. So this, well
1950
01:52:31,380 --> 01:52:33,380
obviously, hell, it's on spaces so
1951
01:52:33,380 --> 01:52:35,380
it's not even lockdownable.
1952
01:52:35,380 --> 01:52:37,380
But I don't know what
1953
01:52:37,380 --> 01:52:39,380
I'm going to do with that.
1954
01:52:39,380 --> 01:52:41,380
Um
1955
01:52:41,380 --> 01:52:43,380
MoreTea?
1956
01:52:43,380 --> 01:52:45,380
Because
1957
01:52:45,380 --> 01:52:47,380
I don't know where to focus.
1958
01:52:49,380 --> 01:52:51,380
Something I'd have to think about.
1959
01:52:51,380 --> 01:52:53,380
I haven't given it a great thought.
1960
01:52:53,380 --> 01:52:55,380
I think as a feature
1961
01:52:55,380 --> 01:52:57,380
it's great to add it. I don't know
1962
01:52:57,380 --> 01:52:59,380
how much value
1963
01:52:59,380 --> 01:53:01,380
the subscription will have in the
1964
01:53:01,380 --> 01:53:03,380
early phases for Leo.
1965
01:53:05,380 --> 01:53:07,380
I don't think it really fits with our
1966
01:53:07,380 --> 01:53:09,380
user base right now.
1967
01:53:09,380 --> 01:53:11,380
But
1968
01:53:11,380 --> 01:53:13,380
I can see why it was implemented.
1969
01:53:13,380 --> 01:53:15,380
The development was obviously there.
1970
01:53:15,380 --> 01:53:17,380
It was done. They could knock it off the list.
1971
01:53:17,380 --> 01:53:19,380
And I think long term it's a feature
1972
01:53:19,380 --> 01:53:21,380
you want to have. I think
1973
01:53:21,380 --> 01:53:23,380
it's a feature that's necessary.
1974
01:53:23,380 --> 01:53:25,380
And it does change the talking points
1975
01:53:25,380 --> 01:53:27,380
a little bit to different monetization
1976
01:53:27,380 --> 01:53:29,380
methods. Nothing wrong with that.
1977
01:53:29,380 --> 01:53:31,380
It is another potential
1978
01:53:31,380 --> 01:53:33,380
revenue stream for Leo. Nothing wrong
1979
01:53:33,380 --> 01:53:35,380
with that.
1980
01:53:35,380 --> 01:53:37,380
Um
1981
01:53:37,380 --> 01:53:39,380
But
1982
01:53:39,380 --> 01:53:41,380
you know, how I can use it
1983
01:53:41,380 --> 01:53:43,380
I
1984
01:53:43,380 --> 01:53:45,380
I don't know at this point.
1985
01:53:45,380 --> 01:53:47,380
I don't know what I want to focus on.
1986
01:53:47,380 --> 01:53:49,380
I certainly could.
1987
01:53:49,380 --> 01:53:51,380
I have longer term
1988
01:53:51,380 --> 01:53:53,380
plans with it.
1989
01:53:53,380 --> 01:53:55,380
And I do have a vision that I've talked about
1990
01:53:55,380 --> 01:53:57,380
with others
1991
01:53:57,380 --> 01:53:59,380
about a business that certainly
1992
01:53:59,380 --> 01:54:01,380
can use that.
1993
01:54:01,380 --> 01:54:03,380
And when I see a longer vision
1994
01:54:03,380 --> 01:54:05,380
probably two years.
1995
01:54:05,380 --> 01:54:07,380
And it's not so much contingent upon
1996
01:54:07,380 --> 01:54:09,380
Leo. It's more contingent upon
1997
01:54:09,380 --> 01:54:11,380
what's going on in the AI world
1998
01:54:11,380 --> 01:54:13,380
and the advancement there.
1999
01:54:13,380 --> 01:54:15,380
But based upon that
2000
01:54:15,380 --> 01:54:17,380
I think there is
2001
01:54:17,380 --> 01:54:19,380
the possibility
2002
01:54:19,380 --> 01:54:21,380
of a decent business that can
2003
01:54:21,380 --> 01:54:23,380
put out a product that I think
2004
01:54:23,380 --> 01:54:25,380
people on Leo would
2005
01:54:25,380 --> 01:54:27,380
pay for and enjoy.
2006
01:54:27,380 --> 01:54:29,380
And
2007
01:54:29,380 --> 01:54:31,380
give them access to something
2008
01:54:31,380 --> 01:54:33,380
that could be
2009
01:54:33,380 --> 01:54:35,380
monetized. Could provide
2010
01:54:35,380 --> 01:54:37,380
them with entertainment if you will.
2011
01:54:37,380 --> 01:54:39,380
Could provide them with information.
2012
01:54:39,380 --> 01:54:41,380
But
2013
01:54:41,380 --> 01:54:43,380
AI technology
2014
01:54:43,380 --> 01:54:45,380
is not there.
2015
01:54:45,380 --> 01:54:47,380
Can't do anything with it at this point
2016
01:54:47,380 --> 01:54:49,380
other than just keep planning it and
2017
01:54:49,380 --> 01:54:51,380
keep laying the groundwork.
2018
01:54:51,380 --> 01:54:53,380
So I do think there is a lot of
2019
01:54:53,380 --> 01:54:55,380
potential with this subscription if people are
2020
01:54:55,380 --> 01:54:57,380
innovative and creative and try to think of ways
2021
01:54:57,380 --> 01:54:59,380
to build a business
2022
01:54:59,380 --> 01:55:01,380
around it.
2023
01:55:03,380 --> 01:55:05,380
I don't know how many people are going to
2024
01:55:05,380 --> 01:55:07,380
especially with our user base.
2025
01:55:09,380 --> 01:55:11,380
We'll see.
2026
01:55:11,380 --> 01:55:13,380
Outside of that for me personally
2027
01:55:13,380 --> 01:55:15,380
I don't know.
2028
01:55:19,380 --> 01:55:21,380
I mean I certainly could
2029
01:55:21,380 --> 01:55:23,380
put up
2030
01:55:23,380 --> 01:55:25,380
stuff that I could put
2031
01:55:25,380 --> 01:55:27,380
behind the paywall.
2032
01:55:27,380 --> 01:55:29,380
But my question is A do I want to do that?
2033
01:55:29,380 --> 01:55:31,380
No.
2034
01:55:31,380 --> 01:55:33,380
Because what ends up
2035
01:55:33,380 --> 01:55:35,380
happening if you have a paywall
2036
01:55:35,380 --> 01:55:37,380
is then I'm
2037
01:55:37,380 --> 01:55:39,380
committed to two articles a week.
2038
01:55:39,380 --> 01:55:41,380
Or three articles a week.
2039
01:55:41,380 --> 01:55:43,380
Or whatever it is.
2040
01:55:43,380 --> 01:55:45,380
Because if somebody's paying you've got to deliver.
2041
01:55:45,380 --> 01:55:47,380
And you've got to deliver on the schedule
2042
01:55:47,380 --> 01:55:49,380
you set.
2043
01:55:49,380 --> 01:55:51,380
And if you don't
2044
01:55:51,380 --> 01:55:53,380
well then
2045
01:55:53,380 --> 01:55:55,380
there goes your rotation.
2046
01:55:55,380 --> 01:55:57,380
You can't go three weeks without posting.
2047
01:55:57,380 --> 01:55:59,380
Now I obviously post everyday on Hive
2048
01:55:59,380 --> 01:56:01,380
so my question is do I have the time?
2049
01:56:01,380 --> 01:56:03,380
And I've made
2050
01:56:03,380 --> 01:56:05,380
the commitment
2051
01:56:05,380 --> 01:56:07,380
to different groups
2052
01:56:07,380 --> 01:56:09,380
at different times to post once a week
2053
01:56:09,380 --> 01:56:11,380
on their behalf.
2054
01:56:11,380 --> 01:56:13,380
And it was a
2055
01:56:13,380 --> 01:56:15,380
different
2056
01:56:15,380 --> 01:56:17,380
form of
2057
01:56:17,380 --> 01:56:19,380
responsibility.
2058
01:56:19,380 --> 01:56:21,380
Because now I'm committed to somebody else.
2059
01:56:21,380 --> 01:56:23,380
And even though
2060
01:56:23,380 --> 01:56:25,380
I do it every day
2061
01:56:25,380 --> 01:56:27,380
I mean
2062
01:56:27,380 --> 01:56:29,380
you're adding another layer.
2063
01:56:29,380 --> 01:56:31,380
So
2064
01:56:31,380 --> 01:56:33,380
it'll be interesting
2065
01:56:33,380 --> 01:56:35,380
to see what people do
2066
01:56:35,380 --> 01:56:37,380
and how many people jump on board.
2067
01:56:37,380 --> 01:56:39,380
But
2068
01:56:39,380 --> 01:56:41,380
you know if you have paying subscribers
2069
01:56:41,380 --> 01:56:43,380
you've got to deliver.
2070
01:56:43,380 --> 01:56:45,380
And if you say you're going to deliver
2071
01:56:45,380 --> 01:56:47,380
two articles a week
2072
01:56:47,380 --> 01:56:49,380
and so that's
2073
01:56:49,380 --> 01:56:51,380
eight or ten articles a month
2074
01:56:51,380 --> 01:56:53,380
for their
2075
01:56:53,380 --> 01:56:55,380
X number of HBD
2076
01:56:55,380 --> 01:56:57,380
5XVD, 10XVD, whatever it is
2077
01:56:57,380 --> 01:56:59,380
and you don't post for two weeks
2078
01:56:59,380 --> 01:57:01,380
you've got
2079
01:57:01,380 --> 01:57:03,380
problems.
2080
01:57:07,380 --> 01:57:09,380
Ahmad
2081
01:57:09,380 --> 01:57:11,380
it's great if
2082
01:57:11,380 --> 01:57:13,380
it's out sooner rather than later.
2083
01:57:13,380 --> 01:57:15,380
It's just existence is a strong point
2084
01:57:15,380 --> 01:57:17,380
for InLeo to boast about.
2085
01:57:17,380 --> 01:57:19,380
Yeah I agree. And it's supposedly
2086
01:57:19,380 --> 01:57:21,380
the target is next week, Ahmad.
2087
01:57:21,380 --> 01:57:23,380
So
2088
01:57:23,380 --> 01:57:25,380
you know it's either next week
2089
01:57:25,380 --> 01:57:27,380
or the week after. It doesn't sound like they're too far away.
2090
01:57:27,380 --> 01:57:29,380
Maybe a few
2091
01:57:29,380 --> 01:57:31,380
bugs left to work out. So it'll be out.
2092
01:57:31,380 --> 01:57:33,380
I agree with you.
2093
01:57:33,380 --> 01:57:35,380
I think long term it's a great thing
2094
01:57:35,380 --> 01:57:37,380
to have. I don't know if it's a necessary feature
2095
01:57:37,380 --> 01:57:39,380
right now. But having
2096
01:57:39,380 --> 01:57:41,380
the feature right now is
2097
01:57:41,380 --> 01:57:43,380
still something to talk about. Some people
2098
01:57:43,380 --> 01:57:45,380
may use. And
2099
01:57:45,380 --> 01:57:47,380
the great thing about it is if somebody gets
2100
01:57:47,380 --> 01:57:49,380
an idea that works, other people copy it.
2101
01:57:49,380 --> 01:57:51,380
You know we're in a monkey see monkey do work.
2102
01:57:51,380 --> 01:57:53,380
And there's nothing wrong with that.
2103
01:57:53,380 --> 01:57:55,380
So if somebody does get innovative
2104
01:57:55,380 --> 01:57:57,380
and creative and does something with
2105
01:57:57,380 --> 01:57:59,380
that, jump on board.
2106
01:58:01,380 --> 01:58:03,380
Jump on board.
2107
01:58:03,380 --> 01:58:05,380
And try it.
2108
01:58:05,380 --> 01:58:07,380
But I think that's going to be
2109
01:58:07,380 --> 01:58:09,380
the key is people experimenting
2110
01:58:09,380 --> 01:58:11,380
and innovating and trying this stuff
2111
01:58:11,380 --> 01:58:13,380
and you need
2112
01:58:13,380 --> 01:58:15,380
a lot of people doing that.
2113
01:58:15,380 --> 01:58:17,380
And I don't know
2114
01:58:17,380 --> 01:58:19,380
I don't know if the base is
2115
01:58:19,380 --> 01:58:21,380
there
2116
01:58:23,380 --> 01:58:25,380
to do it.
2117
01:58:27,380 --> 01:58:29,380
I'll say if he's going to use it
2118
01:58:29,380 --> 01:58:31,380
he'll probably make a donation just to
2119
01:58:31,380 --> 01:58:33,380
people. Yeah I mean
2120
01:58:33,380 --> 01:58:35,380
that's
2121
01:58:41,380 --> 01:58:45,380
that's a good point.
2122
01:58:45,380 --> 01:58:47,380
All right.
2123
01:58:47,380 --> 01:58:49,380
I missed this. Step one make your
2124
01:58:49,380 --> 01:58:51,380
terms of service too long for people to
2125
01:58:51,380 --> 01:58:53,380
read. Step two put every shield possible
2126
01:58:53,380 --> 01:58:55,380
when you want to use people's data
2127
01:58:55,380 --> 01:58:57,380
for your projects without asking permission.
2128
01:58:57,380 --> 01:58:59,380
You already got that with step one.
2129
01:58:59,380 --> 01:59:01,380
Step three profit.
2130
01:59:01,380 --> 01:59:03,380
Yeah.
2131
01:59:03,380 --> 01:59:05,380
Bradley said
2132
01:59:05,380 --> 01:59:07,380
creator subscriptions will be awesome
2133
01:59:07,380 --> 01:59:09,380
for NSW.
2134
01:59:09,380 --> 01:59:11,380
Yeah I agree with that but
2135
01:59:11,380 --> 01:59:13,380
you know Khal disagreed because he
2136
01:59:13,380 --> 01:59:15,380
has a mindset and it you know
2137
01:59:15,380 --> 01:59:17,380
can't get through to him sometimes.
2138
01:59:17,380 --> 01:59:19,380
There should be a free
2139
01:59:19,380 --> 01:59:21,380
option for the creators
2140
01:59:21,380 --> 01:59:23,380
subscriptions. He said well that
2141
01:59:23,380 --> 01:59:25,380
goes against subscriptions. No it doesn't.
2142
01:59:25,380 --> 01:59:27,380
You can still have a subscription that people
2143
01:59:27,380 --> 01:59:29,380
pay for if you're putting up content.
2144
01:59:29,380 --> 01:59:31,380
But if Bradley wants to put up NSFW
2145
01:59:31,380 --> 01:59:33,380
content
2146
01:59:33,380 --> 01:59:35,380
you know and I understand that
2147
01:59:35,380 --> 01:59:37,380
you know eventually you might have
2148
01:59:37,380 --> 01:59:39,380
the tag but people are going to put shit up
2149
01:59:39,380 --> 01:59:41,380
without the tag. But here's the situation
2150
01:59:41,380 --> 01:59:43,380
where if Bradley wanted to post that stuff
2151
01:59:43,380 --> 01:59:45,380
he could set up a feed where it's a
2152
01:59:45,380 --> 01:59:47,380
subscription where I have
2153
01:59:47,380 --> 01:59:49,380
to subscribe to his feed of
2154
01:59:49,380 --> 01:59:51,380
his NSFW content
2155
01:59:51,380 --> 01:59:53,380
and so now his stuff is hidden.
2156
01:59:53,380 --> 01:59:55,380
It's not behind a paywall
2157
01:59:55,380 --> 01:59:57,380
it's just hidden. So
2158
01:59:57,380 --> 01:59:59,380
not every Tom, Dick and Harry can see it.
2159
01:59:59,380 --> 02:00:01,380
If you want to see it you have to
2160
02:00:01,380 --> 02:00:03,380
physically subscribe to
2161
02:00:03,380 --> 02:00:05,380
Bradley's
2162
02:00:05,380 --> 02:00:07,380
subscription.
2163
02:00:07,380 --> 02:00:09,380
And I'm not saying Bradley
2164
02:00:09,380 --> 02:00:11,380
will set up one of them. He just
2165
02:00:11,380 --> 02:00:13,380
kind of was joking
2166
02:00:13,380 --> 02:00:15,380
but that's the point.
2167
02:00:15,380 --> 02:00:17,380
But
2168
02:00:17,380 --> 02:00:19,380
we'll see.
2169
02:00:19,380 --> 02:00:21,380
You know maybe you'll get
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some OnlyFans people coming over. Hell
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I don't know. I never
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understood OnlyFans anyway.
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But they were wildly
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successful for a while and I guess
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they still are. I don't know.
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But
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anyway
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with that
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we will end this and
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we will be around next week.
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So hopefully the latest feed
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is up and working and everything's worked out
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and hope everybody has a
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great day.
RE: Lion’s Den – September 20, 2024 [Full Episode w/ Subtitles & Transcript]