| Earnings YTD | HP | On chain value USD | Off Chain value |
|---|---|---|---|
| 5.8 | $0.35 |
Hive has lots of interesting things hidden
One of the interesting things about HIVE is that everything is available to see if you know where to look. Some data is deeply hidden on the chain itself like custom JSON information. I suppose if you were really interested you could check out Hive blocks and dig but... nah.
However, people's wallets are freely visible just by clicking on their username and seeing what they have. Lots of hidden gems in there. is purchasing the HELIOS on the hive-engine at the "BUY" rate which is really quite reasonable compared to the tokens value then making them available for purchase directly.
There is one small annoyance with the helios.burn system. There is no way to see what is pending in their queue. I am busy writing a post, I throw in a request for an upvote and 15 minutes later I question whether I actually hit send or not.
In addition there is the option to enter any number of HELIOS tokens to burn that is greater than one. A few months ago 4 HELIOS equaled a maximum vote. Today it is closer to 39. How is one supposed to know how many HELIOS is needed for an upvote and how much will that upvote be? Now is doing a daily report (as of now, I'll see if it continues) to answer just those questions.
Here are a couple posts from Discord to show that I'm not the only person who wonders "Where is my upvote" and of course if it takes a while the brain starts going... Did I actually send it? Did it actually make it to the server? How long are things taking?
What if you could find out by being snoopy 😁
Now I will not guarantee the veracity behind what I'm going to say as I'm only extrapolating information from what I see. However, here is the rabbit trail that I looked at. I found it really cool. You are probably going to think I'm nuts. maybe i am but a good nuts ...
Looking at
If you have read some of my previous articles or looked at who is upvoting them you will notice very quickly that I am using the helios.surf website and the burn feature to generate income from my posts.
First: I look at the
account
Do you actually read the information on the account name? Take a look. Notice that it says right there that the account is responsible for burning the tokens. Cool. Let's check out that account.
Second: Poking around the
account
At first glance it looks like a ghost account. No posts at all. Reputation 25 (minimum). 4 followers (proof that anyone can find a follower even if you don't post). 38HP with value of $2.33. That's pretty much empty account....
But look a little closer
It isn't a dead account. It is a purpose built account to take care of the backend for the helios.surf website. Cool!!!
Look at the transaction logs! Woohoo!
Did I send a request for upvote consideration?
YES
There they are.
- Helios to
for the daily update on HELIOS price and burn value
- Helios to
for his writeup on his Actifit daily activity
- Helios to
for writing this... Obviously not there yet :)
How long will upvotes take?
That is a loaded question because the answer is: It depends. Look carefully at the information.
sent a 20 HELIOS request 4 hours ago and 2 hours ago it was fulfilled. Time to upvote? 2 hours
sent 76 HELIOS request 7 hours ago and it was fulfilled 42 minutes ago. Time to upvote? 6 hours and 18 minutes.
Look a little closer at request.
- 39.364 HELIOS burnt AND 39.636 HELIOS returned.
- That means excess HELIOS arent wasted if you send too much. Elegant
Why not first in first out?
No idea but.... My guess is that big requests get manual override? Or possibly big requests come when there is sufficient voting power. The accounts only get so much voting power so sometimes you just need that voting power bar to refill... And you can see that bar also!
4 hours until voting mana recharged. I wouldn't expect to get an upvote soon because the voter is likely waiting to give a better upvote. Then again I don't know the voting threshold they put into the algorithm.
And there is more!
Curious about holding rewards? You can see them in action if you look closely.
Helios held 2278
1.123 HELIOS were sent on that amount. But this account doesn't accept anything other than burn so it returned them. COOL knowing that the account returns HELIOS sent to it that doesn't follow the right format. and using math (1.123365/2278)100 you can verify the actual amount of HELIOS given for holding... 18% .. It says 15% but it might lie just a little ;)
Hive is a wealth of information... look for it
On hive there are so many projects and so many hidden ways to make a return. It isn't always obvious and there may or may not be FAQ's, WIKI's or even writeups. Exploring where whales are getting their return from. Exploring the voting accounts to see who is delegating and how they give returns. Generally just poking around to see how things can yield valuable information.
Or you can just spend an hour digging and find nothing.
That's part of the fun of digging for gold. You never know what you are going to find :)
Personal housekeeping on this account.
| Borrowed GLD | Additional GLD | Repaid | Owing |
|---|---|---|---|
| 100 | +63 | -38 | 125 |
| Spent | Product | Price | From | Available |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 125 GLD | HELIOS | 1 GLD/Helios | 80 @ 0.16Hive then 500@ 0.1922 Hive |