I have come across some concerning information about the HDF Proposal 124, and its tangibility to "cancel culture". After realizing the beneficiary accounts of HDF 124 I would like to bring the follow series of interactions to peoples attention. Please feel free to comment, this is something that will effect us all and inflate the size of the rewards pool to fund more projects, that may not be in the interest of a network driven by freedom of expression like Hive is.
Inception
The first time I encountered logic on the blockchain, or formally anyway there is hidden accounts with "more than one user, you clown." in his words. Keep in mind these ethics belong to someone who wants to govern the definition of "what is spam on hive", while using ad-hominem attacks (and named logic???)... very confusing what responsibility anyone expects from this level of maturity, but that's why I am making this post, I am concerned about the code of ethics of the operators of the accounts that would have a lot of leverage.
Logic : "Why are you commenting on obvious plagiarism spam? :-)"
- Althought we can appreciate the sentiment to prevent spam, this is spamming me to achieve that goal, not appreciated and I have freedom of association in Canada so its a violations of my rights to interfere with my social affiliations. Its also not a crime to promote spam, its a crime to harass people online though. I didn't see any victims did you? (They downvoted him, and had their voice heard right?)
PhusionPhil : "what makes it obvious? how do you check for plagiarism?"
- At this point I was genuinely curious about blockchain technology and spam filtering on chain, not by a human, an A.I. spam filter
Logic : "In this example, it was easy to be found jut by highlighting part of the text and using and right-clicking to "search with google". Or just pasting it into google search.
Come on. You have been around for 4 years :-)"
- Smart enough to know how long I have been on Hive/Steem but oblivious to the fact I will immediately 100% upvote ANYTHING to do with blockchain security and responsible key management. Also an insult to my privacy (one of my most used hashtags) to suggest I use google.
PhusionPhil : "So to use hive I am expected to Google search everything I read before interacting with? I didn't see that in the white paper, did you?"
As said above, I upvote everything about responsible key management almost on sight. Guilty as charged. I upvoted a copy and pasting post about protecting your keys, is that even bad?
Remember how many times it said "keep your keys safe" when you signed up? I support anyone spreading that message. I thought it was a very respectable move to make that bold printed text to remind new users especially about the risks of bad key management.
Logic : "No, you are not expected. It is just basic due diligence and logic to check up if the post that I support or engage with is not spam or plagiarism. Particularly when posts look like obvious plagiarism trash. There must have been like hundreds of thousands of similar spam plagiarism posts from newly created accounts. It is peculiar that after 4 years of being around, you are unable to just spot it right away. Your comment looks like you joined yesterday and have no idea what is going on around."
- Why is someone representing logic (username) attacking my character?
The conversation degraded after this, but I would like to remind you, I AM NOT ASKING FOR THE HDF, Logic is, and that is his behavior I am asking you to judge him on his character before voting for HDF 124.
A Chilling Realization about the way Political Bias and Money Work in Unison
Ever heard of pay to play?
Thats exactly what logic will be doing with our community consensus on spam if paid via the Hive Decentralized Fund on Proposal 124.
These comments everyone should reflect on before voting on HDF 124, there is a lot of accusing going on in general for hivewatchers or logic and the affiliated multiuser accounts adm that could come into play.
"I can use my private stake on Hive and votes in any way I desire just like anyone else.
Just post more racist, xenophobic, misogynistic stuff or "fake covid-19" bullshit and you will surely get more downvotes on that content :-)" - logic of the HDF 124 Proposal
- I have yet to be shown any post I made this "racist, xenophobic, misogynistic or fake covid stuff" but that's considered defamation in Canada, and that's is a offense I can charge
with if he doesn't take that down or provide a report to a Canadian authority about if he really feels it was any of those... (there is your first public warning btw, commenting on this post would signify you read it
)
- Legally speaking now,
I know Australian laws are a little different than Canadian, but isn't this a crime to post fake claims like this against someone when it can damage their career and public image? (I do have IRL followers in Canada who pay tax and who I know would witness to my public image and not seeing any of those problems if we can make a case out of this. I really am tired of the brainless accusations and defamation without any evidence.) Id be happy to be the first blockchain age defamation tort holder.
Further Reading
has made a recent post elaborating on the same concerns and it sadly seems as though they has even stopped blogging since
gave some answers that lead me wanting to make this post.
@mmmmkkkk311/i-have-unapproved-top-witnesses-who-are-supporting-hivewatchers-aka-quackwatch-proposal
I have moved to the same conclusion and will be removing my support for the witnesses who have supported HDF 124 until there is a public consensus formed that HDF 124 is transparently operating and ethically gauged to deal with mature conservatives topics in a political forum. Any adult knows they wont like everything someone else says, but if being right wing is spam... Then we have a problem a lot bigger than spam.
From what I gather there will be zero transparency from the account because that information has not been disclose and the proposal is already being voted on...
Some questions everyday hive users have
Who has access to the adm account?
Will adm be used for hivewatchers related issues?
What is the diversity of the ownership of the hivewatchers hive power and who is in charge of operations?
Footnote,
I made this post to start a discussion, now lets discuss HDF 124 and what I have brought to our attention.
Are you concerned about the ethics of the operation of HDF 124, based on the owners past interactions with Hive users?
P.S. I didn't bring up what I know about and
but this will be for part 2 after we cover the preliminaries of the core issues with HDF 124. With all the illusive engagement I will be saving some ammo for a climax here because I truly feel this HDF 124 is the wrong approach to spam moderation on Hive. THERE IS ALWAYS ANOTHER WAY, and another person for the job...