I still don't understand why you are trying to make this so complicated. Hive was a legal split amd the creation of a new asset. Steem's HF23 illegally siezed assets. It doesn't matter if the witnesses agreed it was okay or not.

Steem doesn't exist in a vaccuum. I'm not sure dpos is the ideal system to allow witnesses to have the final say and be unaccountable for their actions. What is stopping them from voting away dpos?

If the Steem witnesses are held severely accountable for their crime, witnesses on other dpos chains such as Hive will reconsider any intentions of breaking laws.

This is far more valuable than some silly ideal that we are a sovereign nation. Remember most nations are completely messed up despite having much more experience, resources, talent and authority than Steem or Hive. Sorry to belittle Steem or Hive, but comparing 20 mostly anon witnesses to national governments is ridiculous. Even the largest corporations are hardly comparable since they onpy seem focused on profit.

Hive took some of the centralized aspects of Steem, but got rid of others. Shedding some toxic baggage (steemit, fools who supported steemit, justin sun) was great, but maybe not enough.

Originally, mining Steem wasn't done fairly, especially by Steemit. The reward pool is better, but we all know this is exploited a lot, too.

Steem was a great experiment and Hive is the continuation of this experiment. We will all gain from the experience.

I've come to the co conclusion that we probably need some major governance changes. Fortunately this is planned on Hive and more discussion is taking place.

That said I'm glad you had this discussion and took the side of being ridiculous by arguing Steem didn't steal. Thought and debate is more important than being right. Changing and improving thought is good. Blah blah