This was my final response to a commenter on this thread where I had placed the clip of the girl from Sweden telling everyone how she is assaulted at her school. He took issue with the fact that I said what their government labels themselves. . .socialist democrats, left leaning.
Here is that steemit article https://steemit.com/informationwar/@artistiquejewels/sweden-and-other-eu-countries-speak-out-on-assault-and-rapes-with-no-protection-from-their-leftist-governments-the-information
Also the entire thread from start to finish is here https://steemit.com/informationwar/@artistiquejewels/response-to-being-told-i-do-not-have-as-broad-of-a-perspective-as-someone-else-and-it-should-be-embarrassing
Boy you were right, it does take an investment of time and I appreciate you being willing to discuss. Real conversations in an attempt to see the bigger picture, it is what we need all around the world.
I do get your point of not agreeing with most who are leftists. Possibly the mistake came where people think I am judging the good citizens, I am not. I am reporting on what the leaders or those in a position of power are doing. Once again, Sweden calls itself socialist and left leaning. Not my definition, but theirs. It is also not my fault many leftists have become radicalized.
No doubt they have told people or led them to believe they are for the people, the opposite is quite true.
Once again, I am not passing judgement on the name, but rather trying to spread truths as MSM does not tell people the truth about what is happening around the world because they want to instigate the same methodology here. The corrupt leaders (btw plenty of politicians who call themselves republican are corrupt also) are being bribed and funded by the new world order agenda of a one world government. These are simply facts. As the messenger of the real news, I am constantly the one shot down, but that does not let me off the hook of having to deliver the message.
Since you used this method, I hope you extend to me the same courtesy and allow me to use it without appearing rude or offensive (as that is not my intent).
You stated, “They tend to want to use the state to force people to do things; I think that that is a right-wing, conservative approach to thinking about things in the first place, before we even get started talking about specific policies.”
If you are meaning this the way I assume, that you are, for example you prefaced it with, “I AM a leftist, and I don't agree with most people who are called "leftists" on much of anything.” Then proceeded with the above statement, that is after all the crux of the problem then isn’t it?
In other words your view of leftist is in complete opposition as to what they are doing now, and you see what they are doing now (the leaders, those in control) now have what you thought to be a “right-wing, conservative approach to thinking about things. . .”
My first question is, are you really a leftist? I no longer consider myself a republican, but rather a libertarian. Are you perhaps an independent? I don’t say this flippantly, but realized for myself I didn’t meet up with all that the right wing party said they stood for, so possibly the same is true for you.
It appeared because initially you didn’t want to read the article because it spoke of Sweden and other countries as being socialists and leftists. My question is, how is it my fault that I am calling them by what they label themselves? It was not my idea to cause confusion, but rather those in positions of authorities to turn the Democratic Party upside down with a NWO agenda.
You are saying they are right wing and their programs are polar opposite, then why once again do they themselves say they are a socialist democracy? Why are others advocating from the right wing populist party no more immigration? That is a socialist ideal. You can see right here what they not only propose, but force whether people are in agreement or not. This was in the original article. https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cb0_1447249820
You stated, “Sweden is the foremost proponent of right-wing economic policy in the world, and guides UN policy particularly with regard to the International Monetary Fund and World Trade Commissions.”
True people on the right, not corrupt politicians being bribed and having their pockets loaded by globalists, don’t trust UN policy, Monetary Fund nor the World Trade Commissions. They are all ruled by the controlling cabal and that is not right wing propaganda, that comes straight out of Socialist propaganda and one need look no further than Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals. Saul Alinsky BTW is a hero of leftists like Obama and Hillary.
If you look at the history of the UN, and please I encourage everyone not to take my word for it, but to do their own research, the UN came from the League of Nations. A corrupt organization started by the Rothschild family trying to gain more control over as many countries as possible. It is a known fact when you start looking at true history, not just what is taught in the school system, but that which happened it is clear the Rothschild family funded both sides of the war effort in multiple wars. Here is an article with links. I have done reports in the past so finally sat down to do something on paper where they were not just my notes. https://steemit.com/illuminati/@artistiquejewels/story-of-the-rothschilds-their-history-and-connections
My article that I shared out about Sweden and socialism covered the fact that the commenter from Australia viewed the terms opposite and how that is intentional. The fact that the left was intended to be something different doesn’t change the end result that politicians are now so extreme many people who supported their original ideology have left the Democratic Party and the right has become more moderate. Does this encompass everyone. . .absolutely not and I have stated many times in articles and reports I wish to do away with the two party system as it is misleading.
BTW, it was conservatives that got rid of slavery, the democrats were for slavery. They simply lead people to believe it was the other side, i.e. the democratic leader's playbook states right out, whatever you are doing, blame it on the other side." As you can see they have taken this to heart. It was also Margaret Sanger who targeted the black population and encouraged abortions. She was a democrat. Even historically people blamed conservatives for what these people were doing. The problem is, many history books don't teach this do they? I can say that because I taught and their books Did Not include it. The media certainly won't tell you, it goes against the narrative they are allowed to sell.
What is not misleading is the fact that these leaders all across Europe, in the UK and even here in America are doing things that either some are not aware of, or many I would guess do not condone. For instance, I believe I mentioned in the article that Soros has crippled so many economies countries like Venezuela he has been kicked out. He and his societies are full of democrats and go under the name of Open Society. You can find an article here https://truthinmedia.net/2018/04/19/george-soros-kicked-out-of-his-native-country/
You said Sweden embraced hard right wing policies 30 years ago. I don’t know anything about that because I have been shown through friends living there for so many years that they were for socialism, I realize I know nothing about their government decades ago, I am just dealing with what is currently going on. Sadly, right now what people think is true democracy in those countries and even here in the U.S. isn’t always representing the will of the people.
Here is an article attesting to the fact that the people are trying to be heard and citizens living there don’t like being forced into the will of corrupt leaders. Sadly, when you follow the trail, these corrupt leaders are mouthpieces for the UN. https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/02/10/the-death-of-the-most-generous-nation-on-earth-sweden-syria-refugee-europe/
One must never forget the UN still publishes materials from Alice Bailey’s construct of what was originally called the Lucifer Trust. They later changed the name to Lucis Trust. They also infiltrated many churches. All denominations and that is what makes it confusing for everyone. Not saying all churches are bad or filled with pedophiles. That does not negate the fact that they circulate around. Went to different churches for years myself as a child and teen and many had known pedophiles among them. How do I know, they were found out and taken to court, then generally received fairly light sentences. My dad knew firsthand who the pedophiles in town were as he was the chief of police and it was a fairly small town. He simply steered us away from them and didn’t let us go to their homes when invited.
I also taught in the public school system and saw the evidence with my own eyes. Had kids come to me and when trying to report what their father’s, stepfathers and mothers were not stopping, I was confronted by so much red tape and threatened 2 times with people breaking into my portable where I taught and destroying anecdotal evidence and stealing whatever was of value. Those kids would stay after school with me for as long as possible to not have to return to the abuse. Catholic Church goers. Not calling just catholic churches out as the churches I went to and saw evidence of abuse were Baptist (once again not all Baptists are bad nor of course do all do those things). Research shows these people are from all walks of life so once again not picking on anyone in particular.
Yes, I do have proof as I know the commenter from Australia is already aware of the ordeal long going on there. The Vatican has released a statement of support for Pell, citing his “honesty.”“Cardinal Pell is facing multiple charges in respect of historic sexual offences,” Victoria state police deputy commissioner Shane Patton told the media in Melbourne on Thursday.The extent of the charges the senior Vatican cardinal is facing has not been revealed by police.
However, according to Patton, “there are multiple complainants relating to those charges.”There might be up to 10 alleged victims, Australian news website News.com.au reports, adding that they were minors at the time of the alleged assaults and are now aged from their late 20s to their early 50s.The allegations are believed to stretch from the time that Pell was a priest in the Australian town of Ballarat to when he was Archbishop of Melbourne. It is alleged that the cardinal groomed boys at a swimming pool in Ballarat in the 1970s and committed sexual assaults at St Patrick’s Cathedral in Melbourne, according to The Australian.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-australian-archbishop-sex-abuse-20180521-story.html
These stories abound from everywhere. Philippines, right now investigations into churches in Chile, here is another article https://www.ncronline.org/news/accountability/pope-francis-puts-guam-archbishop-accused-sex-abuse-leave
I will be doing a report soon on problems in Chile. If you just do a search you will find many abuses in the Catholic Church. The commenter from Australia knew this and that is part of why they see the right in their country as the oppressors. Once again a huge advocate of getting one’s own eyes on the research. Everyone must go through their own journey when their reality or mindset appears to be threatened. No one else can convince you, if you are like me, you have to see the evidence yourself. Don’t trust others, be suspicious of everything, and seek it yourself. In this you have every right to question! Question absolutely Everything! But be willing to look at evidence that may go completely against your mindset! I myself had to do this. If you are a praying person I advise to do so with prayer. It shakes your entire world.
By the same token I do not nor do many other Patriots believe that all churches or people are doing this evil. All are not. Clearly good people still exist, in many cases among the general population who simply are not aware, but don’t like their mindset or would they believe to be reality threatened.
In the catholic church it starts with the cover-up at the administration level. The hierarchy. You have to ask yourself, who always taught the people they needed an intermediary between them and their Creator? Not biblical. We can talk to the Creator without confessing our sins to another human. This pedo problem comes from the top in the Catholic Church. Even then, I only know what is shown and wouldn’t dare say all officials or all in leadership are doing this. I hope not, but there have been some who are found out and I believe in looking at the sources and evidence rather than for myself, just turning a blind eye or deciding it is exaggerated. When you start researching, there is a great deal of evidence historically and currently that points to a widespread problem. Trying to shut people up about it is intentional.
In the same manner I believe not all leftists are following the corrupt one world gov. Ideology, people should realize not all conservatives or more right leaning people support the Catholic hierarchy of abuse. I am not catholic so do not like being lumped in. I also am not an advocate of the word Christian as it was not a name given by the Creator, but rather a societal construct. I understand it is how people try to describe, but Christians all have a wide spread system of beliefs so are not all the same.
At the same time, I know many good catholic people who do not stand for any of this corruption.
The whole two party issue is indeed quite divisive. I understand why people don’t like the terms being used and take offense. The problem is if we don’t talk about it and call these corrupt leaders out for who they are, they have the upper hand. Then people are just angry with one another and won’t take the time to discuss. This plays into the hands of those continuing their corruption, people either fear or don’t want to take the time to call it out, or deal with it. I do appreciate you being willing to discuss.
Once again, I am not passing judgement on the name, but rather trying to spread truths as MSM does not tell people the truth about what is happening around the world because they want to instigate the same methodology here. The corrupt leaders (btw plenty of politicians who call themselves republican are corrupt also) are being bribed and funded by the new world order agenda of a one world government. These are simply facts. As the messenger of the real news, I am constantly the one shot down, but that does not let me off the hook of having to deliver the message.
You said, “I seem to have a much broader perspective than you do, is all, which should be embarrassing when you realize that you are talking to a backwoods redneck living in the mountains of Tennessee. Please take 5 minutes to read about Appalachia."
I would wager if someone said this to you, you would be extremely offended and wouldn’t even read any further. I do often wonder for those who take offense at what I say about political leaders feel it’s okay for them to make statements to others they would not tolerate themselves.
You claim to have a broader perspective than I do, when you know nothing about me nor my experiences, (as I know nothing of your’s, but did not accuse you of that which you are accusing me).
You may have grown up in the mountains of Tennessee, which is a very beautiful place, but I too have experienced a way of life many know nothing about.
I could, take offense at the word backwoods, (I realize you were referencing yourself but it has connotations for me) as I was referred to as being from the backwoods and backwards on many occasions. Was always at the bottom of the totem pole, and to this day steer clear of people as many will do their best to elevate themselves while pushing others down. I keep to myself and keep my nose to the grindstone.
For example, my father grew up on a small self sustaining farm. When I visited my grandparents as a child, there still wasn’t indoor plumbing. My dad and his siblings appreciated the peach can wrappers as those were less tough when visiting the outhouse. They were saddened by the fact they ran out of yellow pages in old phone books because the shiny pages were not as good for dealing with those outhouse visits. They grew their own food, raised their own hogs and chickens, got up before the break of dawn and retired early evening so they could get up and do it again. My dad was literally working by age 2, no exaggeration as his many siblings still talk about it.
Growing up my parents didn’t have means and we all sacrificed so that my mother was the one taking care of us as my father had heard enough horror stories to not give us over into the care of others as there were stories everywhere of abusers. This meant we wore second hand everything except for gifts my mother made us when she could. Once my parents were wiping down the walls in a home we lived with water because once we finally got the old stove going for heat, it was hard to control the temp. and we were in danger of the walls catching on fire. We lived in some interesting places, but our parents provided food, shelter and did their best to keep us safe!
We lived extremely frugal and even as an adult I make our own soap many times, purchase much of our clothes from goodwill to the disdain of others, we use aldi’s and do without much of what most people have and live with. We do get to do some nice things and go out once in a while, so not saying we are destitute, but we do not have means like the corrupt elite politicians as we see Nancy Pelosi and others doing. It is truly sickening! People see the left as the party of the poor, but seem to not see many of them are just as and in some cases richer than their republican counterparts. They are not poor, even Bernie Sanders for all his criticism owns many houses and his last lakeshore mansion was around $600,000. These people don’t relate to us.
You may call yourself a redneck, but I was called all sorts of names for not having the same means, clothes, money for events, projects as others. I am not meaning to take offense at would you said, but it is an unfair statement for someone who has witnessed a great deal of abuse and seen first hand what some of these people calling themselves certain titles actually believe and do. I remember wanting a barbie house like all my other friends. Made one out of a cardboard box and colored it. At least my mom had cloth scraps for me to glue in curtains as she sewed for people to help make ends meet. We were closed off a little more than some as we had no cable for most of my growing up years and no computer access. We actually had to go outside to turn a large antenna get reception for the one channel we got. Well technically we also got PBS. So I guess 2 channels.
I have nothing against rednecks, always equated them with people of common sense just like my grandparents. I have read books with people talking about their upbringing in the Appalachian mountains and my family couldn’t get me to shut up about my admiration for their survival techniques and ingenuity.
You also stated, “You have to take these things with a grain of salt; children can be coached and are often very good actors.
The alternative is to suggest, and I honestly hate this term, a conspiracy theory; the idea that hundreds of people in education, media and law enforcement are cooperating in order to protect horrible people.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence," and it's just not there.
I have been the witness to, and been there when children have been abused and people let these kids down, when they found out later there were many other victims. In some cases an adult saw it with their own eyes. Not to mention, concerning the clip of the groped teen from Sweden, she is not the only one. She is not a little girl getting the story twisted, not that all little girls shouldn’t be taken seriously, just saying that isn’t even an issue. She is fully aware of her faculties and has adults backing up her story. Even the naysayer admits to seeing abuse but acts like just a few times doesn’t matter. They are leftists (not saying you agree with them, that is what they call themselves).
If it is false why are there so many allegations and even indictments? For example you made reference to pizzagate in what appeared to be a mocking tone, or at least complete disbelief. I set out prior to the election to prove pizzagate wrong. Even asked the Creator to please show me how this was just an exaggeration and surely couldn’t be true. He showed me all right, but I had to put my pride of thinking I knew something aside and couldn’t deny the evidence.
I ended up doing what was expected and not keeping the information to myself as I am to help spread the truth. I have spent a year and a half now on reporting information even in the home state of where I grew up. It was far worse than I had ever imagined or from my own experiences. Of course you don’t have the time to see it all. God bless you if you can take the time to read just what I have written back to you.
I had to do my own research and look at actual documents, be discerning about who was giving facts. Ted Gunderson was FBI and he is a wealth of information. Dead now, as is William (Bill) Cooper. Listened to a lot of testimony and looked through a lot of dockets for court cases.
I didn’t just give any source, I poured through local newspapers and local news stations for verified arrests, witness statements and police reports.
I started realizing it wasn’t just here in the U.S., it wasn’t just pizzagate centered around a pizza owner who happens to be the 49th most influential person in D.C., whose ex-boyfriend was David Brock owner of Media Matters which controls much of the News Media. Whose Instagram before he and democrat google CEO’s tried to scrub filled with more than questionable photos and sexual innuendos concerning babies and children.
I found out about the lies he even told the news media. There are tunnels all over D.C. and he contradicted himself when he claimed there was no basement in one of his establishments to the media, but had talked about his basement to another source.
I started finding out from others across the globe that this is a worldwide issue. It is not just pizzagate, it is pedogate. If you go here, don’t watch my video, most who don’t believe in this despise me and are very critical. I’m not assuming or implying you will be, there is simply no need to watch it, you can find the story yourself and read the research. Just scroll down in the comments and look for ERLIJKE GEDACHTEN
He is from Holland and had his life threatened many times trying to expose these people. If you go to his channel they removed it as he kept saying they were threatening to do because they target the messengers and those trying to expose the protected criminals, mainly because they also involve the law enforcement and politicians. Same thing happens in our country whether people want to admit it or not.
People don’t want to believe it, and that is their choice it is a free country. What I see going on is Zuckerberg is a democrat and has banned not only me, but others who are libertarians. It looks like we lean right, but we do not condone the corrupt Republican politicians. Jack Dorsey is a democrat leftist and has banned many people for free speech. I have found the evidence myself that pedophile accounts are protected and it is those speaking out who are banned.
Those who run Google are democrats, leftists and socialists. Doesn’t matter whether they line up with other leftists who may not be as extreme. They scrub accounts and have taken many away.
You should poke around about the arpanet which was in place prior to the internet and was DARPA’s project. My dad and father in law worked for a national laboratory. My dad was also SWAT team and the government protects it’s secrets well. If you look up Regina Dugan, you will see she was the 19th Director of DARPA but has worked at both Google and Facebook. Why is this important? You poke around, you’re smart, clearly you can put two and two together and you tell me!
You stated, “"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence," and it's just not there. And in another instance,
“Do you have any legitimate source for this? Anecdotal evidence is always suspect, and this is an extraordinary claim.
Tommy Robinson
...was technically breaking the law, and represents such a far-right extremist group that even the moderate-right is appalled by him. Look what the UK is doing to Julian Assange; now he's a leftist!”
Yes, I have sources and people who speak that live there. I have viewed footage from people who go back to visit their home in the UK and say it is run over by those shouting they will instill their own law and order.
I know one thing, here in the U.S. we are far removed by what is actually happening in the UK and other countries and I for one will not just be accepting the MSM’s narrative on what is really happening as we hear almost nothing about the real world form them. They after all told us Hillary was a shoe in. They have also been telling us to hate someone who is uncovering a great deal of their corruption and the money to be made off of their greed.
Here is a source on Tommy Robinson, https://www.therebel.media/ezra_levant_show_may_25_2018
If you do not like that source, you should poke around, plenty of evidence he is now in prison for speaking against child rapists. Here is an article from a writer who lives there and has attested to the fact that there are indeed people in high places connected to law enforcement, so called child advocacy groups etc. who are involved in pedophile rings and criminal conduct. https://www.patreon.com/posts/free-tommy-on-19078485
This is much like what happened in the Dutroux case. Are you familiar with it? He was a pedophile in Belgium claimed he was part of a National Pedophile Network. Abducted, Kept Children in cells. Built underground cells and cages. The police and establishment cover-up that caused national outrage and a White March for the children's innocence. A prime example of it not just being hearsay or conspiracy theory. Conspiracy, yes, among the corrupt and making people think those exposing it are conspiratorial. That is right from Saul Alinsky’s playbook. Please scroll down and see in particular Eerlijke Gedachten’s comment pertaining to his country and what goes on there.
Thank you for getting this far if you did. Since you say you have a broad view, I assume you are open minded. I hope you consider researching all of this out in your spare time. I watch little to no mainstream media. I catch clips here and there, but have found reports and evidence of what is actually happening around the world, or even on some local news stations by poking around on the internet to be far more valuable and truthful than mainstream media which is owned by at least 6 corporations. Elitists and controlling families are always at the top on their board of directors. We are told what they want us to hear. That is why it is called a tell a vision. It is their vision for us!
BTW, Julian Assange is far from leftist as he was exposing what they were doing ultimately. I won’t say whether he is a white hat or black hat, the jury is still out, but I do think it’s interesting that they want to squash someone giving away information that is vital to the rest of us. Remember Saville? If not look him up. Many in positions of control were complicit. He was friends with some of the Queen’s family and I believe was knighted by her. Take everything with a grain of salt for sure, but it is hard to ignore what is really out there. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/it-was-a-relief-when-i-got-the-knighthood-because-it-got-me-off-the-hook-an-exclusive-interview-with-9571057.html.
One must ask themselves, if those in control are not involved and protecting each other through what they call “the honey pot,” then how are they going undetected for so long?
Why won’t the D.C. police department release the information of the backside password only accounts for elites? Have you looked into the chief there, Newsham?
Thanks for reading. If you got to the end, I will be happy to hear your comments even when you disagree.