Kids just don't get this kind of upbringing anymore, is it just me who thinks that? I enjoyed my childhood we didn't have much but what we did have was respect. I see a lot of kids these days with no stability, no values and then we wonder why they turn out to have issues in later life. I have a friend who's child stays in his room 16 hours a day playing PlayStation and wont eat vegetables! How has this happened? What ever happened to good old family values? Perhaps i'm being a little cynical and there is still this kind of up bringing out there and im just not seeing it. Great Post Galen