Thanks... That is true and terrible... I knew about that problem in my trip to Indonesia just about 4 years ago.... that was a shock....I have in my memory a big hug from Jacky... They beautiful orangutan in Bukit lawang, Sumatra... For me she represent all orangutans... I just try to stop some products... But how you say... It is not easy... but at least we can try..big hug and thanks for sharing.