"They head for countries not traditionally considered ‘the west’. These countries provide refuge through alien cultures and laws they consider to be not quite yet stacked against men. These men are usually the reddest of the red-pilled men. These men see the effects and cannot help but see the writing on the walls and pack up and leave the west. "
Well, actualy objectivly looking at those societies, i dont think they actualy are any better for men. Even saudi arabia for that matter, its not like men are treated any better than - in fact, not nearly as good as - women.
Also, if society collapses, fine, why should i care?
RE: Is MGTOW a Problem for Society?