my son and daughter (in-law) have been staying with us for a little while now, helping get the yard cleaned up for the winter. problem is, it got cold and snowed way too soon. so even if there is another 40 hours worth of work, I got a LOT of stuff done, that would not have gotten done, without them.. so i'd like to say a great big "THANK YOU" to Alex and Ledis for all your help.