lol, come on man. that is not condescending. that is the truth. the world is not flat. flat-earthers have no idea what a fixed horizon is and how to tell the difference. the very few that do have to invoke "illusions" to explain away you always see a fixed horizon when you're close enough to the ground. not to mention if you go to the beach on the west coast you can see the sun through the water when the sun sets.. this is impossible on a flat earth, as the sun never goes beneath any portion of the water. you need to get out more. I have seen both these personally, and understand the perspective I am looking at to know 100% the world is round. Flat earth morons discredit legit research into legit topics. now if you want to think the moon landing is fake and other things as well, there is a case to be made on those. the flat earth is for morons. sorry it is. I was being very polite in my response. I assume your a hard core christian. Flat earth is a religion not a logical conclusion.