Governments are civilized if people are, example: nordic countries which live with pretty much liberty and with transparent governments. People by itself have shown not being civilized at all... And you are talking about a long time ago, technology can change that a lot... At the end we, as humanity, were in nature state where the law does not have power because there is any law. Is that what we want or even, that is what we could cope with? Thanks for your comment!