Hi, thanks for the response. I understand your position but disagree. I will ask you five questions and please answer honestly:

1) Is there any means by which any number of individuals can delegate to someone else the moral right to do something which none of the individuals have the moral right to do themselves?

2) Do those who wield political power (presidents, legislators, etc.) have the moral right to do things which other people do not have the moral right to do? If so, from whom and how did they acquire such a right?

3) Is there any process (e.g., constitutions, elections, legislation) by which human beings can transform an immoral act into a moral act (without changing the act itself)?

4) When law-makers and law-enforcers use coercion and force in the name of law and government, do they bear the same responsibility for their actions that anyone else would who did the same thing on his own?

5) When there is a conflict between an individual's own moral conscience, and the commands of a political authority, is the individual morally obligated to do what he personally views as wrong in order to "obey the law"?

I ask these because they illustrate the hypocrisy of government. You cannot ask a group of people to commit violence in your name and call it moral. I opt to not participate in an intrinsically immoral system.

Also, I think you didn't quite understand the post. I was saying that if you give someone authority to make decisions for you, then you have no right to complain about it as you have abdicated responsibility to them.

I will be interested to hear your answers to the above questions.