Thing you are missing here is i've read bookchin thats where i started when i started to read into Anarchism, the second thing is, i don't shrug MLs and Trots off, its more they shrug me off. I was a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist for ages and i still defend some of what the USSR did, and praise what was done correctly although i might not agree with the principles around it. I've tried my damnedest to talk to ML's but they never ever want to talk to me on equal footing unless i become a ML, which i never will. Just because i don't want to be a ML doesn't automatically mean that i aint up for talking to them as comrades, to me and quite a few Anarchists the shunning of MLs aint coming from us, its them towards us. Plus like i said in a past post, MLs mock Trots for their tactics but a lot of the time the same MLs are actually doing the same shit trots do tactically. I've seen ML parties all over the place condemn the acts of Rioters who are on their side just because they don't wanna be painted badly by an already corrupt media.