A law is not an upgraded theory, A law is a description of something that can be applied universally. The theories explain why. A theory can be just as factual, or more so, than a law, such as the theories of relativity.
you don't consider political influence on science to be worthy of your time.
Is is often worthy of my time, as I said, I've written about it often right here on Steemit. I'm simply saying your arguments have no bearing on the matter at hand; the shape of earth. It's a moot, and boring, point.
what we have are observations, and a explanation around them... but we have no testable way to prove that what you say is happening is what is happening.
I don't get it. If you see a door and you claim it's a door, do you not observe the door and apply explanations around it in order to establish the fact that it's a door?
Sure, you might run experiments like opening and closing the door - but these tests very much can be done to everything I've said. Just because you can't be bothered to look these things up, or pretend the things you do look up are lies, doesn't make it go away.
Tides are frequently and easily measured all over the world, the moon's gravitational influence can be tested, as can the sun. Even basic animals like beetles and crabs can use these things to determine their breeding grounds and time.
Why not, instead of you pretending these things don't exist, why don't you come up with an experiment that satisfies you to prove whether or not tides, or anything else, exists? I know why - because you can't - you don't know how, because you refuse to put the time and effort into the actual scientific method.
Please do come up with an experiment to prove gravity, or tides, or the shape of the earth is the way you want it to be.
In real science, I wouldn't ask because you show extreme bias towards that goal and would have a high likelihood of corrupting the results, but hey! I would be fascinated to see what you can come up with beyond YouTube videos.
You can't even address a single point from the beginning of this debate so far... What's your explanation for the google earth video? Does the programme mysteriously and imperceptibly change the shape of the digital globe when you zoom out? Do beach balls somehow manipulate your vision thanks to drugs in the water? Do you have a sample of water you've tested for these drugs, and have you the data to show the effects of the particular drug and its contents?
Do you have any experimental data showing the shape of the earth? Do you have any data on the number of people that have mysteriously gone missing when visiting the antarctic? Surely these families would have said something, or were all their families wiped out and silenced too? That's a lot of people - hundreds of thousands every few years all over the world to silence in a world of open and anonymous internet. Provide the evidence for that.
What about the tides? Do you have any measurements that rebuke the system of tides? Have you gone and done any field work on this, or do you know anybody who has done tangible experiments to show that the claims of tides in certain areas are actually false? Where's the data? Nobody is stopping you doing these things.
What's your explanation for the shadows caused by two sticks put down in two locations on earth matching that of a curved ball? Do you have any data or any simple way to disprove it that we can all go out and do in our free time?
Have you got any images from telescopes that prove the physical laws on earth don't match what we see on other planets and moons? Do you have a tangible, evidence based paper on how the sun and the moon function on a square earth that doesn't have obvious and devastating flaws that can be googled in 2 minutes?
Where's your data? Show it to me. Show me measurements of bridges that don't curve around the earth. Show me calculations of the economic benefits to the US government with their tiny, insignificant space program budget, how about measurement of the actual earth so you can give us a true calculation of the effects of centrifugal forces on our body?
Have you measured the density of air through the atmosphere yet and whether or not it gets thinner? Have you got a measurable format of the force that a vacuum creates? Where's the data on the force of a vacuum?
Enjoy your homework.
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