thanks for yr explanation,, but .....Freedomvigilante...... (freedom is freedom, also the freedom to vote, freedom to choose new path, freedom to leave of join !!!) for sure till now Catalonia was part of Spain, but after what I saw yesterday (full-geared policemen beating old women, throwing peoples around, confronting even firefighters and using force to enter schools for limiting a popular election, even not in conformity with the Costitution of one of the member of EU, I think that the Government of Spain has made a big mistake using inapropriate force without any reason. Please note that Spain should also take care of international convention and the Memorandum of EU and should never use NEVER, NEVER military or paramilitary forces against its population, as we both agree that untill October 1, Catalonia people was part of Spain and no one should beaten them like the pictures below.

Very simply: People has the right of autodetermination and it is just a question of time to get it hoping not to see picture like yesterday one from Catalonia (absolutely part of Spain still today!!)

I wish all the best both to Spain and Catalonia to find a mutual or independent way without armed forces involved in beating normal and peacefull people.