I'm with you Hive account@thorleyjo on the giving the newbies a tip or 2. I'm also a greenhorn in all of this, and as you said, I could look for all the links to help me through it, but with the time it would take and the output of effort for someone who doesn't know their way around these sites, it gets, well to say it like it is.....frustrating. And then sometimes there is the understanding what is said. Once again, frustrating. Just a hand up is all we ask, not a hand out.