If you look back in my other quotes i always refrence my sources back to which article i got my info but forgot to put it on this one, i have edited my sloppyness now, i agree australia is onenof the greatest countries but if we dont keep check on our politicians and laws it could quickly go south and looking into both Turnbull and Shortens back grounds they both have very socialistic views stemming back to their university days..and in my eyes are no differnt in their values today..cheers for the feedback and its good to get these discussions going being civil too one and other, something that seems to be dissapearing more and more between groups who dissagree..cheers..