Yeah but I was just expected a little thoughtful guidance and I know you said you don't have a solution and im not griping with you it's more about the other people I have talked to. I need to do some more reading on anarchy in practice most definitely then I need people to give me a sign. You know "are you the joker or are you Riddick?" these fictional characters are being used to illustrate the differences in the brand of anarchy some people are preaching for.